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Meta-ethical argument for atheism
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RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism
Giving the benefit of the doubt that any god exists and that there is such a thing as "goodness" in an objective sense of the word, there are two options:

(A) Is such a god good because this god defines what is good?

Or:

(B) Is such a god good because he measures perfectly with such goodness?


If the answer is (A), then morality truly is then entirely arbitrary, based on the whims of a supernatural being. Such a god could just as easily say "Thou shalt murder" just as well as "Thou shalt not murder." There is no such thing as morality-- what is "good" merely comes down to following the orders of this particular god. Of course there are many believers who debate exactly what such orders really are...

If the answer is (B) then there is a standard external to god by which we can judge this god to be "morally perfect." Assuming such an objective moral standard exists, this fact would do away with the need for a god in connection to morality, since it exists external to said god anyway. A god is therefore superfluous.

But why should I concern myself with such metaphysical hand wringing?
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Captain Scarlet - August 15, 2010 at 2:53 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Watson - August 15, 2010 at 3:05 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Captain Scarlet - August 15, 2010 at 3:24 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Minimalist - August 15, 2010 at 5:07 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2010 at 3:08 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Edwardo Piet - August 15, 2010 at 5:15 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2010 at 6:47 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Eilonnwy - August 15, 2010 at 5:18 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Captain Scarlet - August 15, 2010 at 5:27 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Minimalist - August 15, 2010 at 5:26 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Captain Scarlet - August 15, 2010 at 7:14 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2010 at 7:42 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Captain Scarlet - August 16, 2010 at 3:37 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by fr0d0 - August 16, 2010 at 8:49 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Captain Scarlet - August 17, 2010 at 9:45 am
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by fr0d0 - August 17, 2010 at 3:40 pm
RE: Meta-ethical argument for atheism - by Entropist - August 17, 2010 at 7:34 pm

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