"Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe."

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"Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe."

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RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe."

February 20, 2015 at 4:12 pm

If we have a situation where there's time before the "universe, I'd call that already part of the universe by any sensible definition, and thus there's no time before the universe by definition. If time truly starts at some point near the big bang (and I don't think we have good reason to believe that) then there is simply no notion of before whatsoever. The question "what was before the universe" as it is employed by apologists is therefore nonsensical.

The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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"Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." - by IanHulett - February 20, 2015 at 3:55 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." - by vorlon13 - February 20, 2015 at 3:58 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." - by Alex K - February 20, 2015 at 4:12 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." - by Mister Agenda - February 20, 2015 at 4:14 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the univ... - by Alex K - February 20, 2015 at 5:35 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the univ... - by emilynghiem - February 20, 2015 at 4:22 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." - by robvalue - February 20, 2015 at 5:42 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." - by ReptilianPeon - February 20, 2015 at 5:45 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the univ... - by IATIA - February 21, 2015 at 8:40 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the univ... - by ReptilianPeon - February 22, 2015 at 12:20 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." - by Alex K - February 20, 2015 at 5:47 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the univ... - by ReptilianPeon - February 20, 2015 at 5:53 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the univ... - by Pizza - February 20, 2015 at 6:15 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the univ... - by Pyrrho - February 21, 2015 at 3:41 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." - by FreeTony - February 21, 2015 at 4:14 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the univ... - by ReptilianPeon - February 21, 2015 at 7:03 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." - by vorlon13 - February 21, 2015 at 8:15 pm

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." - by Mudhammam - February 22, 2015 at 3:24 am

RE: "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." - by psychoslice - February 22, 2015 at 3:29 am

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