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Something/nothing/forever and cycles.
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Something/nothing/forever and cycles.
Science has not answered everything and we are still learning constantly about the universe and what may or may not have happened before the big bang. 

From my layperson's point of view, and I have to admit that is all it is. I do think there is a "forever", but not in a supernatural sense, or si fi sense, or cognative sense,  but in a cycling between states of on and off back to on. 

I think by seeing "forever" as not infinite regress, but as breaking things up between states of on and off, you avoid begging the question. 

"Nothing lasts forever", if I am viewing what some QM scientists mean by that, in that once in a state of off, another quantum twitch will lead to another big bang. 

Basically, I see this "forever" like seasons changing on the planet and the universe merely in it's temporary on state. And the cycle being the death of our universe becoming the fuel for a future big bang.

Now that is not to say we know that there is a "forever", only in that I am saying that if one could conceive a "forever" it would merely be a natural cycle between states of off and on back to off, ect ect ect.
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RE: Something/nothing/forever and cycles.
Scientists in those areas make practical discoveries that pay their wages. For us, working class people, this topic is only for fun.
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RE: Something/nothing/forever and cycles.
(April 2, 2021 at 10:42 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Scientists in those areas make practical discoveries that pay their wages. For us, working class people, this topic is only for fun.

Of course. I can't do a fraction to save my life. That is why I admited it was for me a "layperson's perspective".

I would only speculate in QM terms, focusing on the wave function and the gap between particals popping in and out of existance, are where more answers are going to come from. And studying the behavior of black holes too. 

I find science fucking amazing. Like the fact there is not one atom in me now, that was around when my sperm met my egg. I find the fact that color is not in the object, but in light rays and what we precieve is the difference between what gets absorbed by the object and what bounces off the object into our eyes.

It also still freaks me out to think of a particle as both a particle and wave.
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RE: Something/nothing/forever and cycles.
(April 2, 2021 at 10:42 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Scientists in those areas make practical discoveries that pay their wages. For us, working class people, this topic is only for fun.

Not quite. Even theoretical discoveries often have real world applications. Science is nothing if not serendipitous.

Boru
Ignorance is never valid grounds for the rejection of established facts.
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RE: Something/nothing/forever and cycles.
(April 2, 2021 at 1:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 2, 2021 at 10:42 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Scientists in those areas make practical discoveries that pay their wages. For us, working class people, this topic is only for fun.

Not quite. Even theoretical discoveries often have real world applications. Science is nothing if not serendipitous.

Boru

But is it skinnydipitous? See what I did there?
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RE: Something/nothing/forever and cycles.
(April 2, 2021 at 1:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 2, 2021 at 1:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not quite. Even theoretical discoveries often have real world applications. Science is nothing if not serendipitous.

Boru

But is it skinnydipitous? See what I did there?

I saw what you did. It was very stupid.

Boru
Ignorance is never valid grounds for the rejection of established facts.
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RE: Something/nothing/forever and cycles.
(April 2, 2021 at 1:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 2, 2021 at 1:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote: But is it skinnydipitous? See what I did there?

I saw what you did. It was very stupid.

Boru

Humor, try it sometime. It won't kill you.
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RE: Something/nothing/forever and cycles.
(April 2, 2021 at 1:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 2, 2021 at 1:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I saw what you did. It was very stupid.

Boru

Humor, try it sometime. It won't kill you.

Back atcha, babe.
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RE: Something/nothing/forever and cycles.
(April 2, 2021 at 1:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 2, 2021 at 1:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I saw what you did. It was very stupid.

Boru

Humor, try it sometime. It won't kill you.

You first.

Boru
Ignorance is never valid grounds for the rejection of established facts.
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RE: Something/nothing/forever and cycles.
(April 2, 2021 at 2:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 2, 2021 at 1:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Humor, try it sometime. It won't kill you.

You first.

Boru



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