RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 9:14 am
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2015 at 9:23 am by watchamadoodle.)
(February 22, 2015 at 11:44 pm)Drich Wrote:(February 22, 2015 at 5:18 pm)watchamadoodle Wrote: This discussion of Nazi's reminds me of the Nuremberg defense. Christians ignore their personal sense of morality to follow the superior morality of God - "orders are orders".
On the others hand, God's absolute morality is presented so ambiguously in the Bible that it becomes relative morality. Every Christian is forced to guess based on his/her own instinctual morality.
Do you have examples of either claim?
Homosexuality is an example of "orders are orders". Many Christians claim to see nothing wrong with homosexuality from their personal moral perspective, but they oppose homosexuality because they believe God opposes homosexuality.
The 40,000 Christian denominations is an example of the ambiguity of the Holy Bible, Holy Spirit, Holy Tradition, etc.
(February 23, 2015 at 8:23 am)Ignorant Wrote: I think you may have misunderstood me. By what criteria do you judge that environmentalism is good? What could you substitute for the word "good" which would apply in a consistent way to "education is [good]" and "income redistribution is [good]" and "genocide is not [good]" and "god is not [good]" in such a way that they all mean good?
In other words, if both environmentalism and education are good, then there must have at least that one aspect in common. What is that aspect? What does it mean to say that some thing is good? Does it mean "I like environmentalism"? Does it mean "Everyone should like environmentalism"? Etc. What do you mean by it?
Unlike Catholicism that makes an imaginary being, God, the ground of all good, I claim that each person is a ground of good. We have discussions, elections, etc. to unify our personalized notions of good when necessary for collective action.