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Problem of good and evil for an atheist
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
(August 21, 2010 at 9:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(August 21, 2010 at 5:23 pm)Entropist Wrote:
(August 21, 2010 at 6:45 am)fr0d0 Wrote: The bible was written by men and is potentially errant, yes. The repulsive stories remain as important information on the nature of God. It doesn't show God as cruel as that would be contrary to his nature and therefore logically inconsistent.

It is "repulsive" but not "cruel"? Because by your definition this god cannot be cruel, the slaughter this god commands (and occasionally does the slaughter himself) is NOT cruel. Nice circular logic there.

So when a human being commands the slaughter of people, that's cruel. But when this particular god is issuing the orders, that's good. Orders are orders, eh?
The story is illustrative of God's judgements, which whilst to us appear to be cruel (because we aren't privvy to the information), are just. Logically God can only be just.

I can't think of a justification for a human to slaughter people. It's the limited knowledge thing. Orders in this sense are only so if one knows enough to ascribe them to God. Assuming one or the other we evaluate the story : either it was God's will and just, or people's will and unjust.

And this is how religion turns nice reasonable people into atrocity machines.

Thanks for giving such a text book example on the evil of religion Frodo.



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Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by solja247 - August 13, 2010 at 2:58 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Tiberius - August 13, 2010 at 6:23 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Ace Otana - August 13, 2010 at 9:47 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Ace Otana - August 13, 2010 at 12:57 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rhage - August 13, 2010 at 8:41 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by AnunZi - August 13, 2010 at 9:35 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by chasm - August 13, 2010 at 3:17 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rev. Rye - August 13, 2010 at 5:02 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rhage - August 13, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 13, 2010 at 11:48 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Minimalist - August 14, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by lrh9 - August 14, 2010 at 12:31 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by solja247 - August 15, 2010 at 8:49 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rev. Rye - August 15, 2010 at 11:54 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 19, 2010 at 3:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Ace Otana - August 19, 2010 at 8:03 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Zen Badger - August 21, 2010 at 11:15 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 19, 2010 at 7:12 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 6:45 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 21, 2010 at 5:23 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 9:34 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 21, 2010 at 11:39 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 5:42 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 22, 2010 at 9:08 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by downbeatplumb - August 22, 2010 at 7:53 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 19, 2010 at 9:14 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by solja247 - August 20, 2010 at 9:20 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 11:19 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 1:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Bull Poopie - August 21, 2010 at 11:21 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 21, 2010 at 6:12 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 21, 2010 at 8:45 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 21, 2010 at 10:19 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Darwinian - August 22, 2010 at 7:55 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 8:02 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 8:46 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 9:56 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 22, 2010 at 5:42 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Tiberius - August 22, 2010 at 10:12 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 10:27 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 11:17 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 11:33 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 3:18 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 6:49 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 22, 2010 at 7:14 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 7:19 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 7:42 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 23, 2010 at 3:56 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 23, 2010 at 8:30 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 25, 2010 at 6:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 26, 2010 at 11:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 28, 2010 at 7:37 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 29, 2010 at 7:35 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 30, 2010 at 8:02 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Skipper - September 8, 2010 at 2:14 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by ib.me.ub - October 16, 2010 at 10:05 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2010 at 11:46 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by ib.me.ub - October 16, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by ib.me.ub - October 16, 2010 at 11:15 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by tackattack - October 17, 2010 at 11:38 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rayaan - October 18, 2010 at 2:42 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by LastPoet - October 18, 2010 at 7:51 am

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