(February 27, 2015 at 4:36 pm)Chad32 Wrote:(February 27, 2015 at 4:29 pm)Godschild Wrote: You have proof of this I suppose, actually you need to prove evolution before making assertions about what it did.
GC
Our need to get along as a social species necessitates coming up with rules to get along together. These are morals. Morals most often fall apart when interacting with other groups, for instance when we executed japanese soldiers for waterboarding out troops in WW2, but our government claims waterboarding isn't torture when we do it to other people.
That is how morals come to be within a group, but also shows why they are subjective.
Sonny boy you ever study WWII, you know what they actually did to our soldiers, unprovoked attack on a sleeping navy without a declaration of war. The Bataan Death March, which came after a undeclared attack on the Philippines.
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/bataandeathmarch.htm
The Japanese were as brutal if not more than the Germans, they deserved everything that came their way. Water torture was only one of many charges against Japanese soldiers the water torture they used was a more harsh treatment than that used to day. Go look at the trial records as I did and see what they did. I know about WWII, I had uncles there, even one at Pearl Harbor the day they attacked. I saw what those days did to men.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.