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Why I never was a Christian in the first place
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RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place
(February 28, 2015 at 3:06 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: So let me see if I got this straight.
You believe that God sent himself down to earth to become his own son so that he could sacrifice himself to appease his own wrath because it was the only way that he could convince himself to forgive us for being such sinful beings, because blood sacrifice makes everything better because...
because blood, or rather the shedding of it is a physical representation of the spiritual cost God went through to forgive sin.

Quote:Well, that part is never explained... but that's not the point. The point is we're sinful beings in need of a savior. The reason we're sinful beings is because an ancestor of mine ate a magic fruit after speaking with a talking snake and that brought "sin" into the world because...
becuase God wanted us to have choice. If their is only God's will then their is no Choice. Sin is the alternative to God's expressed will. It is our option to God's will.

Quote:Well, that part isn't explained either... but that's not the point. The point is we should admit we're sinners worthy of Hell because people should be punished for the crimes of their ancestors because...
ROFLOL Ahhh, no. You are seeking attonement for your sin. Not the sins of your fathers.

Quote:Well, that part is a little outdated, isn't it... but that's not the point. The point is that Jesus loves you. He loves you so much. And if you don't accept him as your lord he'll torture you for all eternity.
define your use of the word Love. Because the bible use of the word "Agape" agape is about respect, not the feeling you seem to be speaking about. So in your statement replace the word and idea of 'love' with the word respect, and then see how it reads.

Quote:Oh dear, that sounds less like love and more like an abusive spouse, doesn't it?
it sounds like someone who paid a great price and demands that one acknoweledge it before they benfit from it.

Quote:Well, that's not the point. The point is that Jesus demands worship like a megalomaniac and yet shyly hides behind a curtain instead of taking center stage like such a personality would be expected to. It's almost like some people just made up these rules to suit their agenda to gain more followers with false promises about an afterlife that can't be verified.
Verification is comming brother maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow , but soon and for eternity,Wink

Quote:But I shouldn't believe that because the Bible tells me it's all true.
verification of the bible can be found in the full fillment of the promises found in the bible.

If the bible promises abc if you 123, then one can conclude the bible and what it says is true.

Quote:This same book tells me the universe operates according to a god that isn't at all subtle or shy. Turn nearly any page and you read about magic, angels and overt displays of divine power that can't be mistaken for natural occurrence or coincidence. And yet when you put the book down, you see a natural universe governed by predictable laws and best understood by science and reason.
what makes you believe that 'science' is not man's attempt to catalog how God does what He does? Then what makes you think just because we can catalog a given principle of God's like say gravity, how does that take away from God putting that principle in place?

Quote:And then this same science tells me that we were not poofed into existence in some magic garden 6,000 years ago but evolved from simpler life forms.
again why can't creation and evolution work side by side?

Quote: Some Christians accept science and say Genesis is just a metaphor. But if Genesis is a metaphor, when did "the fall" happen? And if there was no "fall", there was nothing for Jesus to save us from. Christianity unravels, such as it ever held together in the first place, either way.

It amazes me that anyone EVER believed this story, never mind in today.

And would someone please explain to me why love becomes evil when the body parts are similar?
Sin and evil are not the same. Homosexuality is a sin because it is sex outside the bounds of a Santified marriage. (Which btw 'love' or your version of it, out side of marriage whether body parts are the same or different are the same sin.)
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Messages In This Thread
RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place - by Pizza - February 28, 2015 at 3:38 am
RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place - by Nope - February 28, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place - by Nope - February 28, 2015 at 2:14 pm
RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place - by Drich - March 1, 2015 at 12:46 pm

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