Jesus' Sacrifice
March 8, 2015 at 2:20 pm
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2015 at 2:22 pm by Nope.)
Although there is no doubt that crucifixion is a horrible way to die, I have problems viewing the mythological story of Jesus' death as a great sacrifice for humans. (beyond that it isn't true, of course)
In the story, Jesus knew that he would be raised against to live an eternity being pampered and adored. He knows he will win. Granted, I don't like the idea of pain but if I was part of an all knowing god, I would realize the pain was temporary and, compared to eternity, short.
No one asked Jesus to temporarily die for them and Jewish people didn't always require a blood sacrifice for forgiveness. For proof, I give you the link below
http://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/arti...icus-1711/
There doesn't seem to be any reason for a god sacrifice except for Christians to explain why their messiah was killed in such a degrading fashion. If Jesus was supposed to be a direct link to animal sacrifices, shouldn't he have been killed in the same manner as the sacrificial animals and had his throat cut?
If suffering pain was part of the deal(which is pretty sick in itself), why not be flayed alive or drawn and quartered. Cruxifiction is horrible but some forms of historical capital punishment seem worse. Jesus didn't even take as long to die as his fellow thieves. In fact, I read it took him about six hours to die when it took other men days. So, what was the point of being crucified over just having his throat cut? Was it just because bible god needs blood or that he needs to see suffering? How can his death be a glorious sacrifice when Jesus knew he would get an eternity of being pampered and loved?
Compared to an eternity in hell, Jesus's suffering seem laughable. Also, Jesus's so called perfectionism and perfect goodness actually make his sacrifice meaningless. If someone perfectly good dies for someone else, aren't they just following their nature? I am not an all good person. If I die to save a child, wouldn't the fact that I am not perfect mean that I am working against my own nature and thus my death be more impressive?
In the story, Jesus knew that he would be raised against to live an eternity being pampered and adored. He knows he will win. Granted, I don't like the idea of pain but if I was part of an all knowing god, I would realize the pain was temporary and, compared to eternity, short.
No one asked Jesus to temporarily die for them and Jewish people didn't always require a blood sacrifice for forgiveness. For proof, I give you the link below
http://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/arti...icus-1711/
Quote:In the Torah, blood sacrifices were not the only path to atonement; there were other ways to achieve forgiveness. For example, incense served to atone for the people in Numbers 16:46-47, and giving charity is described in Exodus 30:15-16 and Numbers 31:50 as `making atonement for your souls’ – the same expression as in Leviticus 17:11. In reality, blood sacrifices were the least effective of all the means of atonement mentioned in the Bible. One important limitation to the effectiveness of sacrifices is that they were only brought for unintentional sins (ie. someone didn’t know that kindling a fire was prohibited on the Sabbath, or they were aware of this, but thought it was Sunday when kindling the fire). Sacrifices did not help to atone for sins that were done intentionally (Leviticus 4, and Numbers 15:22-31).
There doesn't seem to be any reason for a god sacrifice except for Christians to explain why their messiah was killed in such a degrading fashion. If Jesus was supposed to be a direct link to animal sacrifices, shouldn't he have been killed in the same manner as the sacrificial animals and had his throat cut?
If suffering pain was part of the deal(which is pretty sick in itself), why not be flayed alive or drawn and quartered. Cruxifiction is horrible but some forms of historical capital punishment seem worse. Jesus didn't even take as long to die as his fellow thieves. In fact, I read it took him about six hours to die when it took other men days. So, what was the point of being crucified over just having his throat cut? Was it just because bible god needs blood or that he needs to see suffering? How can his death be a glorious sacrifice when Jesus knew he would get an eternity of being pampered and loved?
Compared to an eternity in hell, Jesus's suffering seem laughable. Also, Jesus's so called perfectionism and perfect goodness actually make his sacrifice meaningless. If someone perfectly good dies for someone else, aren't they just following their nature? I am not an all good person. If I die to save a child, wouldn't the fact that I am not perfect mean that I am working against my own nature and thus my death be more impressive?
