(March 14, 2015 at 5:44 am)robvalue Wrote: With regard to prison and accountability, this is not a problem. If we accept there is no free will, then the punishing agents are also not subject to free will, so their judgement cannot be changed anyhow. It's only an issue where one agent who does have free will has the option to punish or not punish another agent without free will.
The other point that could be argued about prisons is the idea of justice for victims. However in order to wrong someone, you have to somehow make their life worse in some way (e.g. steal from them). You cannot do this to an omnipotent being. (An emotional omnipotent being makes no sense whatsoever, but perhaps another topic).
(March 14, 2015 at 5:59 am)Irrational Wrote: Spot on, OP. If choice is not predetermined, then it can only be spontaneous or random. How can randomness ever indicate free will?
Glad I'm not alone on this.
But it asks the question what even is free will?