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Violence is the Natural conclusion of Religion.
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RE: Violence is the Natural conclusion of Religion.
(March 15, 2015 at 8:42 am)RobertE Wrote:



You are taking my point out of context. Please tell me that the indigenous people wanted to be converted by catholic missionaries. Please tell me that catholics weren't involved in the Atlantic slave trade, please tell me that Catholics weren't responsible for the lie that could have wiped out the whole of Europe in that cats were the cause of the plague? The pope in history is no more different to what Osama Bin Laden, or the Ayatollahs are. They are equally as sick.
-emphasis mine

Well, I was willing to grant that I may have taken your point too literally and out of context, but then that last sentence is just a bit to generalizing for me to grant.

Did Catholics do some messed up stuff? Sure.
Were some Popes "equally" as terrorizing or despotic as Osama Bin Laden or the Ayatollahs? Not quite as sure, but I'm willing to listen to specific comparisons.
Was Western Civilization united by Catholic principles "the exact same" as ISIS and modern Iran? I think you have a lot of work to do before I assent to that hyperbole.

Look, I get it, Christian civilization has done things in the past that resemble things that modern Islamic theocracies do as well, but to claim that the two are "exactly the same" is not something I am going to accept just because you have provided a few examples of shameful Christian action and then say, "Seeeeee?!" Nestor pointed out the same thing and he isn't even a Christian. Think about it.
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RE: Violence is the Natural conclusion of Religion. - by Ignorant - March 15, 2015 at 8:51 am

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