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How Muslims believed earth was spherical long before anybody mentions it.
RE: How Muslims believed earth was spherical long before anybody mentions it.
(March 18, 2015 at 3:47 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No it is not. Our species goes about civility the wrong way and confuses blasphemy with bullying. It is precisely because people protect their egos instead of self introspection that criticism and blasphemy are needed.

EXAMPLE

This is not bullying.

Person A "The New York Yankees won the Superbowl".

Person B. "Bullshit, the Yankees play baseball".

It only becomes bullying when you never allow the person to make the claim. It becomes bullying when the person making the claim has no way out of the situation. Now imagine that person A on top of making that absurd claim, decided to start a political party or religion based on the absurd claim "The Yankees won the Superbowl". Now imagine if that leader, political or religious forced you to never speak ill of such a claim. That society of Yankee lovers would bully anyone who didn't subscribe.

Now bullying does exist even in the west. It happens in the workplace and in schools, places people have no choice but to be. One comment in neutral place where people can part company is not bullying. It is when the behavior is repeated and the other has no way out. That goes with sexual harassment as well.

But merely saying "bullshit" is not a crime nor should it be. You do not help oppressed people in those places by insisting that insults are at the same level as being arrested by the state or murdered by a mob or murdered by the state.

None of what I said there is some sort of call to be a dick to others in every given situation 100% of your life. The problem with insisting no one every speak ill of others claims or beliefs is that everyone can think of a reason to silence others in this case. You cant do that because everyone has an idea of what is offensive and if you give that power to a political party or a religion, they can turn around and silence you.

I am glad Susan B offended White Christian men by refusing to fit their social norms. I am glad Galileo offended the Church. I am glad former Muslim Ayaan Hersi Ali offended sexist Muslim men.

If you allow other people to set up taboos you are giving them power over you. Common law dictates in the west that we cannot act out in violence or call to violence. But no one has a right to decide for everyone what is offensive. PC is a very dangerous game for all parties involved. "Bullying" can only depend on the context of the situation.

By written definition proposed for a seminar you might be correct, but I only judge by emotions in here. I'm that naive.

I judged it like this instead : anything said intentionally, that causes a person to doubt something he/she has no control over (example : parents, race, intelligence, weight, height ...etc) is a type of social terrorism, because once the person starts doubting, they shall also doubt their relationship with the society.

Calling somebody who is petite in size "gay" or "lol small penis", might for example cause that person to doubt himself in front of women -if he was a hetro-. The doubt turns into a complex. Thus, with one small word, you might destroy the future of a human.

Calling somebody fat piggy, might for example cause her to doubt her beauty, and depress her into a gridlock of self hate which would develop into a complex that would prevent her from living & having fun like the rest of the girls, that would result in her eating more, gets hit by diabetes. Thus, you might destroy the future of a human.

That's how I usually see it.

KevinM1

The Quran contains many verses about criticism, and that it's very expected to get mocked for the belief.
Of course it's not a case of inability to handle the mockery, it's about the person.

Irrational

It's fine dude. My skin is pretty thick :p
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RE: How Muslims believed earth was spherical long before anybody mentions it. - by WinterHold - March 18, 2015 at 6:40 pm

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