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Sins
RE: Sins
(March 22, 2015 at 12:02 pm)Drich Wrote: So... What? No book chapter and verse, to support your version of sin?

First and foremost, since I have yet to see proof of any god, I don't believe in the concept of sin. Thus, I don't have a version of it. The burden of proof isn't on ME to help you make YOUR argument. You're an adult. Make it yourself and answer my post without trying to put it back on me.

This is just another weak attempt for you to get around my post where your bullshit and contradictions have been called into question and you refuse to answer with anything that is relevant.

I have just as much of a right to pick apart your theories and call you into question as anyone else. Going off of YOUR post, I can ask questions that make you use logic. I don't have to quote anything from the bible, but since you are Soooo insistent:

Psalm 51:5 Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god,

Psalms 58:3 Even from birth, the wicked go astray.

Shall I cite more, sport?

(March 20, 2015 at 5:08 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote: You cannot say in one sentence that you can't mix, even a little bit and then turn around and say in another sentence that you can. It makes for a weakly constructed argument.

Drich Wrote:Actually one can. The two examples are indeed valid examples of that practice in everyday life.

In what way are contradictions valid? They aren't.

Drich Wrote:In the examples I gave I proove that it is never ok to mix an infected person with a general population that isnot protected from your disease. But at the same time I provided you with an example from real life that would allow for someone with a given disease to intermingle with a general population. In that the general population must all be inoculated from that disease.

All you are doing is repeating what I challenged. That doesn't do shit but make for circular talk and avoidance of addressing the issue.

Judi Lynn Wrote:Second of all, you are comparing sin to both an imaginary "Zombie virus" and chicken pox. There are a few flaws with your arguments:
1. According to the bible*, we are born sick or unclean, or with sin or however you want to phrase it. *This is of course if you believe in sin and if you believe in the bible. But because I'm speaking to you, then it applies, because you believe.
If this is factually correct, then it would be impossible for you to compare it to your second flawed statement.
You then ask:
Drich Wrote:Where does we are born with this affliction?
Right here, sport:

Psalm 51:5 Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me; and here -

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god; and here -

Psalms 58:3 Even from birth, the wicked go astray.

Drich Wrote:That said if you wish to "speak the bible to me" the as I have proved book chapter and verse as I have, and don't ask me to place faith in a miso theist interpretation of the bible.
You have only proved that you can't answer truthfully for the contradictions you've made. Furthermore, I didn't ask you to place faith in anything. I'll thank you for not sticking words in my mouth.

Drich Wrote:This may work with your buddies, but here I am trying to raise the bar of biblical understanding.

You are? By contradicting yourself and making no sense? I can see how far you'll get with that one.

Drich Wrote:One does not have to know of the chicken pox to be subject to it.
In this day and age, you'll be very hard pressed to find anyone who has never heard of chicken pox. But, feel free to find someone and bring them into this debate.

Judi Lynn Wrote:If this is true, then you cannot compare having the chicken pox to being born with sin because 100% of the people would have sin, while an indeterminate percentage of people would have chicken pox. That number can't be 100% simply because of the prior assertion that not everyone has ever had it.
Drich Wrote:Well, what if what you said is not true? It would stand to reason because your objection is not true the point stands..

Prove what I said isn't true. Provide statistical, documented proof. I'll wait. Total avoidance of addressing my point. So predictable.
ROFLOL

Drich Wrote:I noticed you only spoke to 1/3 of the actual arguement. Are the chicken pox real? Does society have quarantine measures in place? Are inoculations real? Do the keep us safe from the effects of a virus?
Considering that I'm not the one making the absurd comparisons between imaginary zombie viruses, sin and chicken pox, I believe I stayed on point. I have nothing to prove since it wasn't my comments that were being called into question in the first place. And again, you haven't even addressed the issues of this imaginary zombie virus. Since you have yet to make a decent challenge, you have answered NONE of my post.
ROFLOL
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Sins - by Nope - March 18, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Sins - by dyresand - March 18, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 18, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 18, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 18, 2015 at 8:08 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 8:21 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 4:05 am
RE: Sins - by Tonus - March 19, 2015 at 5:25 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 18, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Sins - by h4ym4n - March 19, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 2:48 pm
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RE: Sins - by h4ym4n - March 19, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 18, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 18, 2015 at 3:17 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 18, 2015 at 3:30 pm
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 18, 2015 at 3:20 pm
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RE: Sins - by Tonus - March 18, 2015 at 3:24 pm
RE: Sins - by Jesusislord - March 18, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 18, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 18, 2015 at 5:14 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 18, 2015 at 5:17 pm
RE: Sins - by Tonus - March 18, 2015 at 6:46 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 7:22 am
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 19, 2015 at 7:29 am
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 20, 2015 at 12:07 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 20, 2015 at 2:33 pm
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RE: Sins - by Nope - March 20, 2015 at 4:38 pm
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RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 20, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 20, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: Sins - by Minimalist - March 18, 2015 at 5:12 pm
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RE: Sins - by AFTT47 - March 18, 2015 at 7:11 pm
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RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 9:01 pm
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RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 19, 2015 at 10:25 am
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RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 9:14 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 9:35 am
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RE: Sins - by abaris - March 19, 2015 at 2:41 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 19, 2015 at 10:57 am
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RE: Sins - by abaris - March 19, 2015 at 3:11 pm
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RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 3:44 pm
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RE: Sins - by Mudhammam - March 19, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 19, 2015 at 10:08 am
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 10:12 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 2:45 pm
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RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 3:17 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 19, 2015 at 2:47 pm
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RE: Sins - by Cyberman - March 19, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Sins - by Tonus - March 19, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Sins - by vorlon13 - March 19, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 19, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: Sins - by Spooky - March 19, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: Sins - by jesus_wept - March 19, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: Sins - by Mudhammam - March 19, 2015 at 2:53 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 3:51 pm
RE: Sins - by Spooky - March 19, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 19, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 20, 2015 at 2:02 am
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 20, 2015 at 5:00 am
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 20, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 20, 2015 at 4:31 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 20, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: Sins - by Cyberman - March 20, 2015 at 1:37 am
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 20, 2015 at 6:56 am
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: Sins - by Ravenshire - March 20, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 20, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 20, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 20, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 20, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 2:53 pm
RE: Sins - by Cyberman - March 20, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 20, 2015 at 3:13 pm
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 20, 2015 at 2:59 pm
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RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 20, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 20, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 20, 2015 at 4:31 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 20, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 20, 2015 at 4:50 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 20, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: Sins - by Cyberman - March 20, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 20, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 22, 2015 at 2:53 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 22, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 22, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 22, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 22, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 22, 2015 at 9:32 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 22, 2015 at 8:57 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 22, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 22, 2015 at 11:40 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 22, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 22, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 22, 2015 at 5:24 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 22, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Sins - by Ravenshire - March 22, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Sins - by wiploc - March 22, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Sins - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 22, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: Sins - by Thumpalumpacus - March 22, 2015 at 9:02 pm
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 22, 2015 at 9:30 pm
RE: Sins - by Regina - March 23, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 23, 2015 at 8:09 pm

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