RE: If I were an Atheist
March 22, 2015 at 2:03 pm
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2015 at 2:14 pm by The Reality Salesman01.)
(March 21, 2015 at 7:08 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: Someone is probably going to respond it could be some reason we haven't even thought of or could articulate but whose going to argue in favor of a position we can't articulate or fathom?YOU! You are doing that! You are arguing for a kind of entity that cannot be fathomed because it does NOT correlate with reality. THIS reality is NOT a host to any such a mind that poofs external physical objects into existence, and yet, you seem completely oblivious to that fact.
(March 21, 2015 at 7:08 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: In criminal law, the inference is made by the trier of facts in order to support the truth of assertion (of guilt or absence of guilt).In Criminal law, the subjects in question correlate with reality and if any good case is going to be put forth, it better be based on evidence that correlates with reality as well. In criminal law, every aspect involved is grounded in nature. Suppose I was on trial for murder and my alibi was that I was out playing golf with Elvis in a different Galaxy to celebrate my best Angel Friends birthday.
There's no way anyone would believe me, and my claim would not be more likely if they couldn't prove exactly where I was actually at.
You need to start thinking about the details here translate to this conversation, because that's exactly the kind of thing you are doing. Ignoring that this is never the sort of thing that could even be tried, If this were a criminal case, and the origin of the universe was on trial, and your case, which is based entirely on a proposition that has no physical grounding in the shared experience of reality, it would be and IS being received the same way. You may have decided that a "mind" sounds good to you, and it may be your opinion that such a thing is the best idea you've heard, but no jury could possibly rule in favor of such an argument because there is a fatal flaw in the proposition you've put forward...what evidence do you have to believe that any such mind A) exists and B) made this universe? So far, none. It's a faith claim and it's an argument from ignorance.
(March 21, 2015 at 7:08 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: This is why the argument there is no evidence in support of theism isn't just a bad argument...its false.Says the guy who doesn't have evidence...
Good thing out legal system doesn't share your opinion.
(March 21, 2015 at 7:08 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: Why is it critical? Because if in fact there is no evidence of theism, theistic belief can be marginalized as nothing more than a faith claim.Bingo. Guess what? That's exactly what you have...a faith claim.