(March 25, 2015 at 12:43 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Oof..so much wrong with that. Not least of which is that its rather presumptuous to imply that Christians in general put "country" in their pantheon of top 3 most important things to them.
No, I'm fairly confident in that particular assertion.
(March 25, 2015 at 12:43 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: "Atheists" don't have a common set of anything besides 'not believing in god'. It's irritating to see theists treat 'atheism' as some sort of club or just another religious group that has a common set of doctrines, values, and ideas. We don't. We're individuals that often hold different and conflciting beliefs, and we discuss and debate them.
Instead of asking what "Atheists" think is important, you could try asking an atheist to see what he or she holds as important.
I'm not sure if you did it intentionally or not, but implying that Science somehow assumes the slot of "God" for atheists is another tired and aggrivating trope from theists.
That being said, if I had to choose a 'top 3', it would be family, skepticism, debate.
You have several implications in your post that we've seen other theists make explicitly about atheists, though I won't be so cynical to assert you're making them equally as explicitly.
No there was no malice of intent on my part, I'm genuinely asking so I don't misrepresent an atheists position on something within the book. I'm not an Atheist so I'd rather not just assume something about an entire group of people and would rather ask the question. There's truly no malice intended here, just serious research for myself.
Quote:I'm not sure if you did it intentionally or not, but implying that Science somehow assumes the slot of "God" for atheists is another tired and aggrivating trope from theists.
My apologies to you and anyone else I offended with the question. It's why I asked, better I offend a few people here than thousands of people when the book is released and where it's to late to be corrected.
Quote:That being said, if I had to choose a 'top 3', it would be family, skepticism, debate.
I appreciate the effort here, debate and skepticism is a little more intangible from what I'm looking for. As an example, if a Christian were to learn tomorrow without a shadow of a doubt that God didn't exist, or their entire family died, or the country were to fall apart then suicide while not a guarantee would become a possibility. I'm not sure a person can lose the ability to be skeptical, debating maybe if they lost their ability to speak I suppose. Anyway, thank you.
