FatandFaithless I apologize for not addressing your comment. I have no problem with God's view on slavery. What God outlined in the law was like being an indentured slave. You could choose to be a slave if you wished. If a Jew did own a Jewish slave at the year of Jubilee (every 7 years) the slave would go free unless he or she wanted to stay with the family for the rest of their life. You couldn't sell off a Jewish slave to another country. You could not oppress the foreigner in Israel. In the new testament is speaks of slave owners treating their slaves like brothers. It is not like the slavery we experience now or like in American from the 1500's to the 1800's when people were consider property. Even if I did think it was ok to treat people as property (which I don't) why would you have a problem with that? Am I wrong, but don't you view us as just, as I have heard it said, star stuff bumping together. So what would be the problem with owning another person?
Robvalue you give me no proof that what I have said is just an assertion. Not just that but my life gives me proof that it is a fact. I have met God and have had a relationship with him for 26 years now.
If a cat ate a mouse would that be good for the well being of the mouse? Just and I said to FatandFaithless, if life sprang accidentally from the universe then we are just star stuff one thing is no better than the other. If one person wants to stone another what is the big deal? It is just star stuff.
As for this unruly son. God is serious about His commands and the son in Deut 12:18-21 is breaking the commandment to honor his father and mother. God is not being harsh He is being just. Also this son wasn't just unruly for one day it was a life style. It says that he was a "glutton and a drunkard". He refused to respect his parents and from the use of glutton and drunkard I doubt he is a small child.
Judi Lynn if we are just accidents of the universe and we by luck of the draw got to be humans how is the act with the cat and mouse any different than one person oppressing another. The reason I have that show the difference between these acts is that although the cat and mouse are amazingly complex creature they are not made in the image of God . One person oppresses another then that is defamation of the image of the living God. So again why do you have a problem with my comparison?
Chad32 God does not change so if I base what is good or evil off of Him that will not change either. Just like a compass pointing to the north pole. Now as for the command not to kill actually it says not to murder. Killing and murdering are two different acts. In the New testament Jesus takes it even further and says your words of hate for someone can be equal to murder.
From my experience in life and what I have read in the bible God is not self-centered. He is beyond humble and is self controlled but I am curious Chad32 why do you think he is self-centered?
Chad32 I have seen my children legitimately wrong the other and them being upset because of it. Still are you saying that right and wrong is just made up by people? If so that is so why do we not want things that are truly ours taken away?
Robvalue you give me no proof that what I have said is just an assertion. Not just that but my life gives me proof that it is a fact. I have met God and have had a relationship with him for 26 years now.
If a cat ate a mouse would that be good for the well being of the mouse? Just and I said to FatandFaithless, if life sprang accidentally from the universe then we are just star stuff one thing is no better than the other. If one person wants to stone another what is the big deal? It is just star stuff.
As for this unruly son. God is serious about His commands and the son in Deut 12:18-21 is breaking the commandment to honor his father and mother. God is not being harsh He is being just. Also this son wasn't just unruly for one day it was a life style. It says that he was a "glutton and a drunkard". He refused to respect his parents and from the use of glutton and drunkard I doubt he is a small child.
Judi Lynn if we are just accidents of the universe and we by luck of the draw got to be humans how is the act with the cat and mouse any different than one person oppressing another. The reason I have that show the difference between these acts is that although the cat and mouse are amazingly complex creature they are not made in the image of God . One person oppresses another then that is defamation of the image of the living God. So again why do you have a problem with my comparison?
Chad32 God does not change so if I base what is good or evil off of Him that will not change either. Just like a compass pointing to the north pole. Now as for the command not to kill actually it says not to murder. Killing and murdering are two different acts. In the New testament Jesus takes it even further and says your words of hate for someone can be equal to murder.
From my experience in life and what I have read in the bible God is not self-centered. He is beyond humble and is self controlled but I am curious Chad32 why do you think he is self-centered?
Chad32 I have seen my children legitimately wrong the other and them being upset because of it. Still are you saying that right and wrong is just made up by people? If so that is so why do we not want things that are truly ours taken away?
