RE: Atheists and Feminists at Yale also tried to get Ayaan Hirsi Ali banned from speaking
March 31, 2015 at 7:26 pm
(March 31, 2015 at 5:41 pm)TheMessiah Wrote: Many Atheist scholars, from Harris to Hitchens have detailed how barbaric and evil Islam is; but Hirsi IMO is more precise in specific regards to Islam.
Thoughts?
Hirsi also has much more experience, having grown up Muslim and being an ex-muslim herself.
But I can't say I'm surprised by the reaction to her among certain liberal groups who have developed a strange love-affair with Islam. It's "strange" because I can't think of any social issue where Islam and western liberalism agree. It's an odd couple, to say the least. I'm sure everyone has seen the Bill Mahar episode where Harris said liberals were unwilling to speak out against Islamic theocracy, whereupon Affleck flew off the handle and started screaming Harris was a "racist", thus proving Harris' point.
This issue is possibly the most divisive among liberals, some of whom take a rational view and others who treat Islam as a sacred cow. The latter group call me a "bigot" while I call them "pig-headed, coexist-fetishistic demagogues".
Are you a pig-headed, coexist-fetishistic demagogue? Know the ten warning signs (seriously, real ones I've encountered):
1. You think "Islam" is a race.
2. You argue that any criticism of Islam is racially motivated.
3. You think Harris, Dawkins, et al are "white supremacists" even though you can't quote anything from them that indicates such.
4. You assert that Harris, Dawkins, et al don't criticize any religion "even close to the extent" that they criticize Islam.
5. You argue that religion (or Islam specifically) is never to blame for any sectarian violence done in its name. The cause is always poltical, social, economic or, if you can't find any scapegoat, just plain due to "certain bad people".
6. When people have to hide or are killed for "blasphemy", you suggest that it's the fault of the victim for not being "more sensitive" or "abusing their right to free speech".
7. You want to censor critics of religion or even jail them in order to promote "sensitivity".
8. You think making fun of Islam or criticizing Islam is the equivalent to calling for the persecution of Muslims everywhere. You even draw allusions to white supremacist and Nazi persecutions of Jewish people.
9. You shout down critics of religion as "bigots" or, failing that, straw man them as people who believe that religion is "always" to blame for all suffering in the world. You insist on this straw man even after being corrected.
10. You think that cultures which kill gay people or treat women as chattel are equal to cultures that seek to promote equality and tolerance for sexual orientation.
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