RE: Why a heaven and hell couldn't exist.
April 1, 2015 at 1:08 am
(This post was last modified: April 1, 2015 at 1:18 am by robvalue.)
Indeed. Their existence violates everything we know, or think we know. It goes against all science, and even all common sense. It's pure fantasy, with absolutely no relation to anything real anyone has ever experienced.
Of course it's very convenient no one can prove they don't exist. But that's the classic argument from ignorance, and it is pathetic. Let me make that clear, an argument from ignorance, "you can't prove it doesn't exist" is laughable and anyone making such an argument should be ashamed of themselves. If that is all you've got, you may as well be a little kid telling me I can't prove Santa doesn't exist or that his toys don't come to life at night. No, I can't disprove unfalsifiable statements. No one can. But that is not a reason to believe any random supernatural shit anyone tells you. That is called fantasy, and should be reserved for the imagination only, not serious life decisions. Any bullshit unfalsifiable claim is as good as literally any other. By unfalsifiable, I mean it cannot be proven wrong. If it can't possibly ever be proven wrong, it is a worthless claim. It's framed in such a way that we can never know anything about it. Anything involving the supernatural automatically falls right into this category.
That is the difference between science and religion: science makes testable, falsifiable claims. Religion makes useless, random unfalsifiable claims which could be substituted for any other random claims and we wouldn't ever know the difference. The end result of a given event that we view in our reality looks exactly the same whether it has magical supernatural cause A, magic supernatural cause B, or no supernatural cause. If you disagree with that statement, you are seriously in danger of blurring the line between fantasy and reality. If I'm wrong, by all means tell me why.
Of course it's very convenient no one can prove they don't exist. But that's the classic argument from ignorance, and it is pathetic. Let me make that clear, an argument from ignorance, "you can't prove it doesn't exist" is laughable and anyone making such an argument should be ashamed of themselves. If that is all you've got, you may as well be a little kid telling me I can't prove Santa doesn't exist or that his toys don't come to life at night. No, I can't disprove unfalsifiable statements. No one can. But that is not a reason to believe any random supernatural shit anyone tells you. That is called fantasy, and should be reserved for the imagination only, not serious life decisions. Any bullshit unfalsifiable claim is as good as literally any other. By unfalsifiable, I mean it cannot be proven wrong. If it can't possibly ever be proven wrong, it is a worthless claim. It's framed in such a way that we can never know anything about it. Anything involving the supernatural automatically falls right into this category.
That is the difference between science and religion: science makes testable, falsifiable claims. Religion makes useless, random unfalsifiable claims which could be substituted for any other random claims and we wouldn't ever know the difference. The end result of a given event that we view in our reality looks exactly the same whether it has magical supernatural cause A, magic supernatural cause B, or no supernatural cause. If you disagree with that statement, you are seriously in danger of blurring the line between fantasy and reality. If I'm wrong, by all means tell me why.
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