RE: Objective evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ?
April 2, 2015 at 3:13 am
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2015 at 3:22 am by robvalue.)
Watchamadoodle: Cool, so say we allow jesus be baptised by John and then crucified by poncho pilot. Would he be the only guy to have had both these events, also called jesus, in all likelihood?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm genuinely interested. I don't know how common both those events would have been.
The dates are so all over the place that "when" they happened isn't much of a big deal. There's a fairly big time window. I assume the baptism would generally be first, though
If the answer is yes, and we have identified a single dude, then I agree, you could call that a HJ. It does satisfy my definition. It would be about a 1% correlation with the story or something. I haven't looked in detail at how reliable it is that jesus was indeed poncho'd and john'd so I'll have to come back to those when I have the brain power.
Pizza: Personally, I don't claim that there definitely would have been contemporary accounts. I just find their total absence surprising.
Also (not aimed at pizza, general comment) surprising is the lack of support jesus gets from his "followers" in the story, there weren't very many were there? He obviously couldn't convince people of a lot even by being God right in front of their eyes. It took years of myth building and bullshit before he became popular. That's not a HJ point, just a jab at jesus for being such a fail.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm genuinely interested. I don't know how common both those events would have been.
The dates are so all over the place that "when" they happened isn't much of a big deal. There's a fairly big time window. I assume the baptism would generally be first, though

If the answer is yes, and we have identified a single dude, then I agree, you could call that a HJ. It does satisfy my definition. It would be about a 1% correlation with the story or something. I haven't looked in detail at how reliable it is that jesus was indeed poncho'd and john'd so I'll have to come back to those when I have the brain power.
Pizza: Personally, I don't claim that there definitely would have been contemporary accounts. I just find their total absence surprising.
Also (not aimed at pizza, general comment) surprising is the lack of support jesus gets from his "followers" in the story, there weren't very many were there? He obviously couldn't convince people of a lot even by being God right in front of their eyes. It took years of myth building and bullshit before he became popular. That's not a HJ point, just a jab at jesus for being such a fail.
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