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Historical Easter Question for Minimalist
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RE: Historical Easter Question for Minimalist
That's a really good question, Sweetie.

Justin Martyr's First Apologia was written to Antonius Pius c 160.  In it, he knows of the crucifixion and Pilate but not Mary, Joseph, Caiaphas, Peter, James, Judas, Mary Magdalene, Nazareth, or John the Baptist.  Again, as with the purported Tacitus reference, note this from the First Apology:


Quote:Our teacher of these things is Jesus Christ, who also was born for this purpose, and was crucified under Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judaea, in the times of Tiberius Caesar; and that we reasonably worship Him, having learned that He is the Son of the true God Himself, and holding Him in the second place, and the prophetic Spirit in the third, we will prove. For they proclaim our madness to consist in this, that we give to a crucified man a place second to the unchangeable and eternal God, the Creator of all; for they do not discern the mystery that is herein, to which, as we make it plain to you, we pray you to give heed.

Justin uses the term "procurator" which is first used in Judaea after the death of Herod Agrippa I in 44 AD.  Prior to Herod Agrippa's reign the Romans appointed a Prefect to administer Judaea (only) as the other regions were under the control of allied kings such as Herod Antipas.  This suggests that the story was concocted after the term Prefect had gone out of general usage.  Further, the other allegedly early body of xtian writings, the so-called epistles of "Paul" are even worse than Justin as they know nothing of any of the above nor Pilate.
Now xtians love to rattle on how "Paul" dates from the first century but the earliest we actually hear of him in solidly datable references is in the mid 2d century and Justin never heard of any "Paul" either....although he did hear of "Paul's" sponsor, Marcion.  The whole thing is very confusing because the handful of actual facts we have do not match up to xtian bullshit.

By c 185 Irenaeus is writing of controversy in dating the resurrection celebration.  This indicates that the bulk of the xtian bullshit story as we now know it developed between 160 and 185.

You may find this web site interesting.

http://www.cogwriter.com/easter.htm


Quote:This is known by scholars:

Quote:The first Christians celebrated the death of Jesus with a Pascha meal (eucharist) on the lunar date of the Jewish Passover (note 1 Cor. 5:7-8).
At first there was no annual celebration of the resurrection. Eventually, in the gentile world, the day of resurrection was added to the Pascha festival. That day was Sunday. At the Council of Nicea (325) it was ruled that Easter Sunday would be celebrated on the Sunday immediately following that full moon which came after the vernal equinox. At the same time the Council decided that the vernal equinox would be March 21 in the Julian calendar (Eusebius, Vit. Const. 3.18). (Synder GF. Irish Jesus, Roman Jesus: the formation of early Irish Christianity. Trinity Press International, 2002, p. 183)
So, for compromisers, the Passover changed. And it changed a lot. Because they held it on Sunday, some of the compromisers quickly decided to teach that Jesus was resurrected on a Sunday as partial justification (in their view) for the change. But this resulted in major changes to the observance of Passover by those who held to the Greco-Roman position.



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RE: Historical Easter Question for Minimalist - by Minimalist - April 3, 2015 at 12:47 am
RE: Historical Easter Question for Minimalist - by abaris - April 3, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Historical Easter Question for Minimalist - by Tonus - April 3, 2015 at 10:40 am

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