Atheist or Agnostic?

[robvalue]

Datc: the reason there can be no evidence against "God" (I don't think you've even defined it yet?) is that it is usually an unfalsifiable proposition. That means, it literally cannot be proved wrong. If I say "God is everywhere and he loves you but you can't see him or feel him but he's there" that is unfalsifiable. You can't prove it's not true.

Unfalsifiable statements are useless. Every single one. They can never be proved wrong or right, neither can we even know if it is possible that they are right. And every single one is as good as any other. For example:

"I have a metaphysical pet dragon."

"I met God. He is Vishnu."

"You're actually a brain in a VAT and this is all an illusion being stimulated by chemicals."

"I am God. I created the universe. I have now taken human form and abandoned my godly powers."

You can't prove any of those wrong. But that doesn't mean you should take any of them seriously, either. They are all committing a logical fallacy known as the argument from ignorance. You are randomly professing a belief in something you literally cannot know anything about.

http://robvalue.wix.com/atheism#!argumen...lity/c1831

Of course, if you have a definition of God for us that is in some way falsifiable, then please go for it!

To worry about unfalsifiable statements means to take every one you hear seriously forever. In other words, you now have to give time to considering all the claims I made above. Is that sensible? Of course, you can say that your belief or knowledge is somehow "special" and you "just know" it is true, or whatever. But that does not help us evaluate the claim at all. And if it's unfalsifiable, then you cannot "just know" either. That is another fallacy called special pleading. To say your "faith" is somehow more true than a muslims faith, or my faith that I am God.

http://robvalue.wix.com/atheism#!special-pleading/c43p

And quite clearly, these things can't all be true, not in any simple sense. So it comes down to whether you care if your beliefs are true. If you don't, then really there's nothing more to say.