Is Allah simply testing the Palestinains?

[RobertE]

Israel is painted as the enemy and the bad guy

They are bad guys.  Somebody fires a rocket that lands in an empty field and they use it as an excuse to massacre 1,500 civilians.  Oh, and then Netan-yahoo calls for an election because he has just shown what a big cock he has by unleashing his army on essentially defenseless people.

Wake up.

I did say that, I wasn't painting them in any other way. So, nothing to say about what Isis did to the Palestinians then, or is it because it wasn't the Israelis that you simply don't care? From what you took from my post, you give me the impression that the only time the Palestinians matter in your life is when Israel "attacks", them. If you cannot be impartial and see it as it is, then there is nothing more to discuss on the matter. If you can say "it pains me to see the Palestinians suffer at the hands of the Israelis, and it also pains me to see them suffering at the hands of a extreme muslim group", then you can be considered neutral. However, I don't get the impression of objectivity unless it is the Israelis committing the atrocities.

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The more I learn about the various religions and their effect on people the more upset I become. With each new news story and chapter of the Quran I read the angrier I become. I feel like I'm becoming more and more of a so-called "Millitant Atheist". I assume this is natural.


It really hate it when people are told their suffering is necessary and their deity knows best. It is especially bad when Muhammadans do it because these people will lament about Palestine but I know that they won't ever say that Allah is "doing what's best for Palestine" or "testing the people of Palestine". Yet they have the audacity to cite verses such as Quran 2:155 when Stephen Fry talk about how evil deities are (remember the RTÉ interview?). It's always the fault of the Zionists that control the world and never the fault of Allah (who could easily stop their suffering).

Quran 2:155
"Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere,"

Allah causing the Palestinians to suffer? If that wasn't bad enough, the Quran even says that power is given and taken away from whom Allah pleases. Therefore, we can assume that Allah gave power to the Jews and took it away from the Palestinians.

Quran 3:26
"Say: "O Allah! Lord of Power (And Rule), Thou givest power to whom Thou pleasest, and Thou strippest off power from whom Thou pleasest: Thou enduest with honour whom Thou pleasest, and Thou bringest low whom Thou pleasest: In Thy hand is all good. Verily, over all things Thou hast power."

But hang on, I thought Allah hated the Jews? That's confusing...or least until we look at another verse. It seems that Allah has forced the Jews to be the nasty people Muhammadans always seem to grieve about:
Quran 9:77
"So He hath put as a consequence hypocrisy into their hearts, (to last) till the Day, whereon they shall meet Him: because they broke their covenant with Allah, and because they lied (again and again)."

So Allah took away the free will of the Jews too? Now it all makes sense. However, there is one more verse, Quran 22:39, that I want to cite:
"To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;-"

So the Quran says that if Allah is unwilling or unable to protect you then you should fight. Is this verse an admission that Allah is a weak deity? I wish people would read their Qurans more instead of producing crap like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsFHuI625bI

By the same token, for someone to hate Israel and the Jews so much, he totally forgot that the baseball team that he supports is Jewish, and also, the fact that he is using Israeli-made chips in his computer to get his message across stinks of fucking hypocrisy in the highest order. Same goes for muslims who detest the Jews, Israel and zionists in general. They also hate the founder of Facebook, yet he is described as a zionist.