(April 10, 2015 at 6:03 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: AuroraBolded part mine.
The world in a), I think would be forever. It would be a possible favor and not a bad favor, it would be an ok one, and one a lot of people without knowledge of the higher stations with God would love because they don't like suffering.
But God has a special type of grace that he wants us to give, and wants us to reward us with a special relationship with him that is everlasting.
If you see God as the most worthy goal, and that higher stations inward stations, and their favour, then that grace outweighs the suffering in the system of the world in it is and outweighs the grace in world in a).
I guess from your point of view, since, there is no station in the unseen of beauty and glory, and higher ranks, and all sort of fruits of two kinds from majesty and beauty, then you don't see good deeds as really worth it.
But I think honor is a greater reward then just happiness, specially since a greater happiness and greater peace would result to the the good people.
I think it being instruments of compassion in temporarily world in need of it, with reward of a world of just peace in the next, is a great favor.
No, I see good deeds as VERY worth it, or did you not actually read my post? Good deeds are extremely important when we see the world as it really is. THIS world has suffering, and that is why it is imerative we do good things now, not wait for some imaginary sky daddy to make it all right later.
If this world is temporary, and god wants us to suffer as so many beleivers think, then it is YOU who must think good deeds are pretty pointless, since god will reward or punish people appropriately after they die.
I don't do nice things just to make myself happy, I do them because I'm not a giant asshole that needs an imaginary reason to do them.
There is much beauty in the world, much awe to be felt, and good things to do. You have fallen into the stupid trap of thinking atheist are all nihilists, or something.
I can and do good things without the need of a god standing over me with a carrot and a whip.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead