RE: 130,000 years ago? Even Neandertal Fucks the Creatards
April 13, 2015 at 11:40 am
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2015 at 11:49 am by The Grand Nudger.)
We farm grains. That's what our ag rev was based off of. Sure, if we look at "farming grains" as the minimum bar then environment played a role. Thing is, there is no environment capable of supporting us that does not also provide ag opportunity. None. Never has been, never could have been, never will be...but that hardly matters, because ag is environmental modification anyway...and if you find a place that "can't ag" - you can make it so.
Could neandertals have farmed something, in their environment, in their lifetime..sure...but what would the use have been? Why spend that time? Even the first ag societies we see were malnourished compared to their nearby brethren who kept on going with hunting and gathering. There was no reason for -us- to do ag until we exhausted other means. I doubt that the neandertals, if they understood ag...would have seen it differently than our own ancestors did.
Seems to me they would have been natural ranchers - it's a wonder they didn't go that route.
(it's the soil..btw, in europe...that made it difficult to get ag -as we do it- going, not the cold - people grow tomatoes in alaska..after all, lol. You need a heavy plow. If it weren;t for the damned dirt, cold environments are great - especially for early farmers. Less disease, fewer pests..and the food doesn't go bad as fast on the vine or in the shed. Today...we grow through the winter in florida - for example- for this, and many other reasons.)
Could neandertals have farmed something, in their environment, in their lifetime..sure...but what would the use have been? Why spend that time? Even the first ag societies we see were malnourished compared to their nearby brethren who kept on going with hunting and gathering. There was no reason for -us- to do ag until we exhausted other means. I doubt that the neandertals, if they understood ag...would have seen it differently than our own ancestors did.
Seems to me they would have been natural ranchers - it's a wonder they didn't go that route.
(it's the soil..btw, in europe...that made it difficult to get ag -as we do it- going, not the cold - people grow tomatoes in alaska..after all, lol. You need a heavy plow. If it weren;t for the damned dirt, cold environments are great - especially for early farmers. Less disease, fewer pests..and the food doesn't go bad as fast on the vine or in the shed. Today...we grow through the winter in florida - for example- for this, and many other reasons.)
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