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More Shit For Creatards To Swallow
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RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow
(April 21, 2015 at 5:42 pm)abaris Wrote: I strongly recommend to consult a history book at some point.

That's always good advice and I don't resent it...  Tongue

I don't claim a scholarly level of knowledge on anything I post here: A historian can name the primary source documents for Moorish Spain, and talk about the relative strengths and weaknesses of each one. Muslim occupation lasted about 700 years, during which the quality of the regime varied. (Or regimes, as hardly one fella was always atop everything.) Muslim rulers did have a reputation for relative tolerance by the standards of the day, perhaps being more interested in commerce than religious contretemps. But the initial Berber invasion was brutal and it took quite a while for things to settle down. As was the later Ummayyad suppression of the Berbers.

Noblesse oblige is the kind of ideal we humans usually honor in the breach. But it had a restraining influence. The early Middle Ages didn't feature the hordes of vagabonds clogging the roads in the 15th century when the system was breaking down. I imagine that was because villages and fiefs were taking better care of their own than they would do later. The commons was open through the early Middle Ages; the really  serious attempts to fence it off didn't occur until after the Black Death. Closure of the commons can be considered a first step toward the private property state we so love today.

Modern education and social security systems are forced concessions from elites concerned more with the spectre of communism or national strength for a next war than with expressing high ideals, yet I wouldn't deny the latter helped lubricate things.
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More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Minimalist - April 12, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by dyresand - April 12, 2015 at 10:52 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by *Deidre* - April 21, 2015 at 12:28 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by ignoramus - May 11, 2015 at 3:17 am
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by The Valkyrie - April 12, 2015 at 10:53 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Minimalist - April 12, 2015 at 11:07 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Mothonis - April 12, 2015 at 11:30 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by robvalue - April 13, 2015 at 1:13 am
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Minimalist - April 13, 2015 at 1:24 am
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by robvalue - April 13, 2015 at 2:31 am
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Minimalist - April 13, 2015 at 2:37 am
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Hatshepsut - April 20, 2015 at 3:53 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by abaris - April 20, 2015 at 6:08 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Hatshepsut - April 20, 2015 at 6:48 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Thumpalumpacus - April 21, 2015 at 12:28 am
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Hatshepsut - April 21, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Minimalist - April 20, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Hatshepsut - April 20, 2015 at 10:54 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Minimalist - April 20, 2015 at 11:19 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Longhorn - April 21, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Minimalist - April 21, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Hatshepsut - April 21, 2015 at 2:48 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by abaris - April 21, 2015 at 5:42 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Hatshepsut - April 21, 2015 at 6:31 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by robvalue - April 21, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Hatshepsut - April 21, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Minimalist - April 21, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Hatshepsut - April 21, 2015 at 4:21 pm
RE: More Shit For Creatards To Swallow - by Minimalist - April 21, 2015 at 6:31 pm

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