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The Wonder of Reality
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RE: The Wonder of Reality
(April 24, 2015 at 9:24 am)Riketto Wrote:
(April 23, 2015 at 11:41 am)Simon Moon Wrote: I beg your pardon!!!.
In the reference that Zebra show us it clearly say that Krauss state that the universe doesn't have a purpose so why should be me that should come up with the burden of proof?
It seems that your outlook is all upside down at the moment.


Having a bit of a reading comprehension problem, eh?

The quote clearly states what Krauss likes about the idea of a universe without purpose. He is not claiming to know that the universe does not have a purpose. You really should read a book on how the scientific process works so you can understand Krauss's mindset.

If he was making a claim that he knows the universe does not have a purpose, he would have stated it. You would have seen phrases in his statement such as, "Given that I know that our universe has no purpose...". 


Quote:Scientists so far have found out that the consciousness and the brain need each other to work but they haven't found out whether the consciousness once the body die can

Simply no.

Scientists have found that consciousness is a product of a physical brain. Consciousness has never been observed absent a brain. There is no demonstrable evidence that shows otherwise.

Quote:or can not continue to live without a body (brain included of course) so please don't state the obvious and neglect or refuse to see this possibility which by the way has already
been experienced by thousand of NDEs that the consciousness can live outside the brain.

NDE's have never been proved to be anything other than a brain state brought about by a brain under extreme stress, releasing a chemical soup.

Quote:The fact that the consciousness and the brain need each other while the person is alive does not means that the consciousness is a product of the brain.
If you think so you must back it up with solid evidence.

Ah, no.

People that suffer brain injuries can have their entire personality reset and become a completely different person. This happened to my aunt.

If consciousness is not a product of the physical brain, why would physical damage cause such drastic alterations?

Physical damage to the area in her physical brain that controls emotion, caused her to become a different person. 

Quote:So far not even the clever scientists could find out any evidence in this regard so until this is the case you shouldn't state that the consciousness is an emergent property of a physical brain.

Complete rubbish. You have no idea what you are talking about.

The last decade of research into neuroscience has simply passed by your failed understanding. 
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You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Messages In This Thread
The Wonder of Reality - by PhilosophicalZebra - April 22, 2015 at 7:06 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Alex K - April 23, 2015 at 7:29 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Little Rik - April 23, 2015 at 9:23 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Simon Moon - April 23, 2015 at 11:41 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 23, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Alex K - April 23, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by cocunningham - April 23, 2015 at 9:34 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Little Rik - April 23, 2015 at 10:22 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by cocunningham - April 23, 2015 at 11:10 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Little Rik - April 24, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Simon Moon - April 24, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Little Rik - April 24, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Cyberman - April 23, 2015 at 9:35 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Goon - April 23, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by PhilosophicalZebra - April 23, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Little Rik - April 24, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Simon Moon - April 24, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Little Rik - April 25, 2015 at 7:20 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Cyberman - April 25, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Longhorn - April 23, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by PhilosophicalZebra - April 23, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 23, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Aroura - April 23, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Neo-Scholastic - April 23, 2015 at 5:00 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Alex K - April 23, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Neo-Scholastic - April 24, 2015 at 9:55 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Alex K - April 24, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Esquilax - April 24, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Spooky - April 24, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by PhilosophicalZebra - April 24, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by PhilosophicalZebra - April 25, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by PhilosophicalZebra - April 28, 2015 at 5:20 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Little Rik - April 29, 2015 at 6:51 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Alex K - April 29, 2015 at 6:56 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Little Rik - April 29, 2015 at 7:53 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by robvalue - April 29, 2015 at 7:34 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 29, 2015 at 7:01 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Alex K - April 29, 2015 at 7:14 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Cyberman - April 29, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by PhilosophicalZebra - April 29, 2015 at 8:03 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Little Rik - April 29, 2015 at 9:27 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Simon Moon - April 29, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Little Rik - April 30, 2015 at 4:31 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by The Grand Nudger - April 29, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Thumpalumpacus - April 29, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by PhilosophicalZebra - April 29, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Thumpalumpacus - April 29, 2015 at 3:07 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Alex K - April 29, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by PhilosophicalZebra - April 29, 2015 at 4:10 pm
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Alex K - April 30, 2015 at 5:47 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by Vox Populi - April 30, 2015 at 8:39 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by PhilosophicalZebra - May 2, 2015 at 7:35 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by robvalue - May 2, 2015 at 7:37 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by PhilosophicalZebra - May 2, 2015 at 7:42 am
RE: The Wonder of Reality - by robvalue - May 2, 2015 at 10:10 am

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