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Transgendered children
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RE: Transgendered children
(April 25, 2015 at 9:55 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Which is kind of disturbing to me. That can't really be healthy.
By what measure is it not healthy? Because you wouldn't do it? Do you think forcing her to be a boy, which she's not in her brain, and go through puberty and lessen her chances to have a successful transition is healthy?

This idea that these parents just are elated to have the child they adopted be a girl because they are lesbians is infuriating. Every account of this story paints this out to have been an excruciatingly difficult process and decision where the hardest thing they had to do was to actually listen to their child, and advocate for her.

(April 25, 2015 at 9:55 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I just think maybe instead of changing someone's body, we should change our ideas of what a man or woman should be like. There is no real standard of what a man or woman needs to be, aside from what society instills in them. If we were just open about what a person could do, is there really anything a child couldn't do unless they had different body parts?

This isn't a case where she just wants to do 'girly' things. She literally understands herself as a girl. Her concept of being is that she is female. She feels wrong as a boy. It is a feeling that literally cannot be empathized with, I imagine. I cannot even fathom what it's like. But it has been studied and it is a real thing. Again, they aren't cutting off her penis. That's not happening. If she decides not to transition, they'll take the patch off and she'll go through puberty with no ill effects on her reproductive ability.

This, by all accounts, isn't a whimsy.
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Transgendered children - by KUSA - April 25, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Minimalist - April 25, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 25, 2015 at 8:00 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - April 26, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - July 17, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - April 25, 2015 at 8:00 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Minimalist - April 25, 2015 at 8:06 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Pizza - April 25, 2015 at 8:08 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - April 25, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Minimalist - April 25, 2015 at 9:48 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 25, 2015 at 10:11 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 25, 2015 at 8:17 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Mudhammam - April 26, 2015 at 7:10 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Pizza - April 26, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Mudhammam - April 26, 2015 at 8:44 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Pizza - April 26, 2015 at 9:04 am
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 26, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Transgendered children - by rexbeccarox - April 25, 2015 at 8:03 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Chad32 - April 25, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - April 25, 2015 at 8:24 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Chad32 - April 25, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 25, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 25, 2015 at 8:35 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Iroscato - April 25, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Pyrrho - April 25, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Minimalist - April 25, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by vorlon13 - April 25, 2015 at 10:47 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by robvalue - April 26, 2015 at 5:56 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Pyrrho - April 26, 2015 at 2:20 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - April 26, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by robvalue - April 26, 2015 at 6:35 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Napoléon - April 26, 2015 at 6:02 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by Pyrrho - April 27, 2015 at 8:50 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 26, 2015 at 8:38 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by Pizza - April 26, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Napoléon - April 26, 2015 at 8:54 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 26, 2015 at 9:01 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by Napoléon - April 26, 2015 at 9:37 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Tiberius - April 26, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 26, 2015 at 9:39 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - April 26, 2015 at 10:00 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - April 26, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 26, 2015 at 10:06 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Mudhammam - April 26, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - April 26, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 26, 2015 at 10:45 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Longhorn - April 27, 2015 at 12:58 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Silver - April 27, 2015 at 2:16 am
RE: Transgendered children - by robvalue - April 27, 2015 at 5:21 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 27, 2015 at 9:15 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Pizza - April 27, 2015 at 9:39 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Mudhammam - April 27, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 27, 2015 at 9:39 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by celtic.white - July 16, 2015 at 12:36 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Dystopia - July 16, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Transgendered children - by BrokenQuill92 - July 16, 2015 at 12:57 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Metis - July 17, 2015 at 9:33 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 16, 2015 at 8:01 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - July 17, 2015 at 9:57 am
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - July 17, 2015 at 10:22 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - July 17, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Dystopia - July 17, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by celtic.white - July 17, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - July 17, 2015 at 3:42 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2015 at 3:55 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - July 17, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - July 17, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by brewer - July 17, 2015 at 6:43 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - July 17, 2015 at 8:09 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by rossrocks88 - July 17, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by celtic.white - July 18, 2015 at 5:16 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - July 18, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Dystopia - July 18, 2015 at 6:09 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by laurence_99 - July 25, 2015 at 10:57 am
Transgendered children - by vixene - August 1, 2015 at 9:46 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - August 2, 2015 at 5:11 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - August 2, 2015 at 3:31 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - August 17, 2015 at 11:04 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - August 18, 2015 at 1:54 am
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Transgendered children - by 80sChild - August 18, 2015 at 6:56 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Lemonvariable72 - January 26, 2017 at 6:51 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by Violet - February 6, 2017 at 9:16 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - February 8, 2017 at 2:17 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by account_inactive - February 9, 2017 at 1:28 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - February 13, 2017 at 5:29 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Violet - February 9, 2017 at 5:24 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Alex K - February 8, 2017 at 7:10 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Amarok - February 8, 2017 at 7:16 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by paulpablo - February 13, 2017 at 12:07 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - February 15, 2017 at 3:34 am

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