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Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
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RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
(April 28, 2015 at 5:12 pm)abaris Wrote:
(April 27, 2015 at 5:38 pm)Tiberius Wrote: You are correct concerning the term "Muslim" though. There is no "Muslim" race.

No, but there's rampant anti muslim bigotry, which uses the same kind of scapegoating and terminology as racism and particularly antisemitism does. The results can be as devastating. Whenever a particular group is targetted simply for being a certain group it is totally irrelevant if they are a race or have some other common defining factor.

After Hebdo, Muslims were rightfully claiming discrimination. And also after Hebdo Jews rightfully complained that they also get discriminated against. But neither want to face the elephant in the room. You can make it about race, ethnic or culture all you want, but what is causing it is religion itself. It is a false argument to claim people view those labels differently, no one is disputing that. 

The long term history is that one religion was created in antiquity, that religion created holy books, then another religion was created and they too wrote holy books, both of those holy books tell the respective followers they are more special than anyone else, even when you can find motifs of compassion for others, they are still very tribal books that are written to promote one tribe as being more important than the others.

The labels of race and ethnic and culture and nationalism are excuses to avoid that religion is causing it. NOW AGAIN that is not a call to end either religion as if you could. But if you face that reality you take away all those other excuses and those differences become less important than civility which I would hope humans can agree with.

Those books respectively promote a "chosen people" a tribe, and civility wont grow until that is accepted as the root of religious divisions. So I do believe both Muslims and Jews when they say they are discriminated against, and I am offering them a solution to reduce that and bring more civility between them.
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Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Brian37 - April 27, 2015 at 4:26 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Dystopia - April 27, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Brian37 - April 27, 2015 at 4:45 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Dystopia - April 27, 2015 at 4:47 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Minimalist - April 27, 2015 at 4:49 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Longhorn - April 27, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Brian37 - April 27, 2015 at 5:05 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Longhorn - April 27, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Tiberius - April 27, 2015 at 5:38 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by abaris - April 28, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Brian37 - April 30, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Dystopia - April 27, 2015 at 4:59 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Brian37 - April 27, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by AFTT47 - April 28, 2015 at 1:32 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Brian37 - April 28, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Dystopia - April 28, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Brian37 - April 29, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Dystopia - April 28, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Cephus - April 30, 2015 at 4:51 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Brian37 - April 30, 2015 at 6:50 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by abaris - April 30, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by Brian37 - April 30, 2015 at 8:03 pm
RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE - by abaris - May 1, 2015 at 4:01 am

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