(May 2, 2015 at 5:47 am)jesus_wept Wrote:No it's complex.(May 2, 2015 at 5:32 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Why do you want us out of Europe? I have never seen any cogent arguments for this position that stood up to scrutiny.
I dont really see how being in Europe has benefited us, all its really done (IMO) is give us an excess of cheap labour which has bought down wages and pushed house prices up. I also dont think we need the EU to tell us what to do, it's quite simple really.
House prices were pushed up by the tories de-reglating the finance industry allowing more years to count towards mortgages increasing inflationary pressure and by selling off the social housing reserves, nothing to do with immigrants.
"cheap labour" this is a complaint against capitalism and how markets operate rather than foreign labour as such.
My personal preference is for greater integration with Europe and I do not understand the little England mindset that I encounter in people like my mother in law who wants out of Europe because Brussels.
The only way to play with the big boys is to be part of a big block that can oppose America and China.
If we leave the EU we become an irrelevance on the world stage.
We have no industrial base. our Navy can't project power because we lack aircraft carriers we could be safely ignored.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.
