What Would It Take To Be Convinced?

[dahrling]

Haha, some of these posts really gave me a chuckle (:

If there is a god, how can he prove to us he exists? Maybe he wouldn't have to, because he could have created us with an inner knowledge of his existence. Some people would call this faith. But in reality, if this god exists he created us in a very flawed manner (or allowed us to become flawed) because logic and reason seem to thump that faith.

So maybe I could never believe in god, because I simply don't want to. I don't want to believe in a god who is cruel and hateful, but who calls himself loving. Maybe I'm the one in denial. I don't think so. Science seems to support the notion that the bible and the idea of a god is flawed. In the end it's a bet we're all making. If there is a god, then I'm damned either way because I do not want to submit to him. If that's because I am "fallen", then whose fault is that? God would be the creator, and we would be his responsibility as his children. If you're child dies and you can do something about it, you're the guilty. Ask any parent who has lost a child, if they feel like they could, in anyway, save him/her there is almost always some guilt involved (even when there shouldn't be). God would be responsible because he created humanity, knowing they'd become corrupt and choose not to follow him. And then he decided he was going to damn them because they didn't submit to him anymore. Is this love? Would you burn your child because he chose to leave you or because he didn't respect you anymore?