(September 13, 2010 at 5:53 pm)Tiberius Wrote: It is fairer in the sense that everyone is treated equally, as I believe they should be. The rich are taxed by the same percentage as the poor. The rich end up giving more (just as with progressive tax), but in a proportional way.
I know I'm going to fuck this up because every time I try to break a post down to separate quotes I do. Anyway, that is such a load of shit. The "poor" do not pay taxes in the US. Not the really poor. Their income is too low so these rich fucks ( sorry, I cannot be polite about this) keep raising sales taxes which the poor do pay just to make sure they get appropriately fucked over, too. And, that rich CEO that you seem to love pays Social Security Taxes on the first 2 two days of his income in a year while his secretary gets taxed on the full amount she earns. You can pretend that its "fair" all your like and, if you are a multi-millionaire then I apologize because you are doing what is right for your class. If not, you are deluding yourself.
Quote:I don't mind if you support progressive taxation for your own personal reasons, but please do not pretend it is in any way "equal" or "fair".
See above. Progressive taxation IS fair. You know, the "poor" don't need the services of the Securities and Exchange Commission. They also don't benefit too much from the war-profiteering that goes on in the guise of national "defense" (except they get to join the army and get their balls blown off so corporate interests can keep making money off the public tit.) A poor man, paying insurance on a 1980 Ford pays less than one of these corporate scumbags with his 2010 Mercedes. I suppose you'd like the insurance rates to be even in the interests of "fairness", too?
Quote:I'd also ask how you think shipping jobs overseas isn't creating jobs. Of course it is creating them...just because they aren't in your particular country doesn't mean they aren't being created. There are people in Bangladesh that are very thankful for the jobs they have.
Let's be crystal clear about something. I don't give a flying fuck about Bangla Desh and if you are going to try to persuade me that these money-grubbing corporate cocksuckers moved jobs over there out of a sense of "fairness" well, you'll have more luck persuading me that jesus got up out of his tomb and took a shit on Pilate's head before going to tell his followers "I'm Back, Guys." American politicians are supposed to be looking out for the jobs of Americans - not having their lips surgically attached to the asses of these greedy bastards who are in the process of ruining this country.
"Fairness" my ass.