RE: Transubstantiation 'miracle' shenanigans
May 13, 2015 at 10:50 pm
(This post was last modified: May 13, 2015 at 10:55 pm by Randy Carson.)
(May 13, 2015 at 9:43 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I'm breaking out Hitchens' Razor on that.
And please try to be more careful with your post formatting.
My apologies. I'm obviously new and trying to figure out how the forum software works.
I'm used to seeing {quote} {/quote} around everything I am responding to.
And if there is an indent button, that would be great, too.
(May 13, 2015 at 10:27 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:(May 13, 2015 at 7:19 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Ah...this is an easy one. When the bread and wine are consecrated, the substance changes and becomes the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus. Hence the term transubstantiation. However, the accidents (the look, feel, taste, etc) of bread and wine remain. Thus, at mass Catholics receive the body and blood of Jesus in species that still look and taste like bread and wine.
So the substance changes but its appearance and taste, and everything that identifies it as that substance, stays the same. Gotcha. The fact that a substance changes (but doesn't change anything by which we would describe it) by saying some words over it doesn't trip any cognitive dissonance for you at all? You realize how patently ridiculous this assertion is, right?
(May 13, 2015 at 7:19 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: With me so far?
Patently ridiculous? No. It's pretty straightforward.
Jesus said, "This is my body, this is my blood."
He never said, "This represents...".
Could someone explain why it appears that when I respond to two separate posts...one right after the other...they appear to merge as a single post?