RE: In Christianity, blind faith is good faith
May 14, 2015 at 3:52 am
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2015 at 4:06 am by robvalue.)
Would you accept being found guilty of murder on the strength of evidence the gospels provide? Reports written decades later by non-eye witnesses? Would you say that is fair enough and go down peacefully?
At best, such reports give you somewhere to look for other evidence. It is this other evidence that would then be used to make a conviction. Without it, it's worthless. A bunch of other non-eye witness accounts vaguely confirming a couple of minor details is again not good evidence. Or would you be happy to be sent down on that too?
It's up to each person to decide what is and isn't good evidence, from their own point of view. But my point is that I think theists make particular exceptions for their own holy books, and allow kinds of evidence they would normally dismiss out of hand with regard to any other subject in life.
Being incredibly charitable, the very best you could ever get from the bible is what eye witnesses believed happened regarding Jesus. Who cares? People can be mistaken, people can be fooled. It doesn't mean what they believed was true. With no way to verify their beliefs, it is again a case of blind faith to just assume they could all somehow not lie in their accounts, not be mistaken or deceived in their accounts and correctly identify supernatural causation which is something we can't do even today.
You can go talk to people who will swear they've been abducted by aliens, right now. Will you believe everything they tell you?
At best, such reports give you somewhere to look for other evidence. It is this other evidence that would then be used to make a conviction. Without it, it's worthless. A bunch of other non-eye witness accounts vaguely confirming a couple of minor details is again not good evidence. Or would you be happy to be sent down on that too?
It's up to each person to decide what is and isn't good evidence, from their own point of view. But my point is that I think theists make particular exceptions for their own holy books, and allow kinds of evidence they would normally dismiss out of hand with regard to any other subject in life.
Being incredibly charitable, the very best you could ever get from the bible is what eye witnesses believed happened regarding Jesus. Who cares? People can be mistaken, people can be fooled. It doesn't mean what they believed was true. With no way to verify their beliefs, it is again a case of blind faith to just assume they could all somehow not lie in their accounts, not be mistaken or deceived in their accounts and correctly identify supernatural causation which is something we can't do even today.
You can go talk to people who will swear they've been abducted by aliens, right now. Will you believe everything they tell you?
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