(May 15, 2015 at 2:29 pm)robvalue Wrote: Hello welcome to the forum
How could impersonal stuff like matter and energy "obey" laws of any kind?
This is assigning agency to things that aren't making any decisions. They aren't obeying because they're not thinking. It's more accurate to say they follow the laws. We describe how the universe works, we can't ever know exactly why things are the way they are.
Where do the laws of nature and the laws of logic come from?
We don't know. Just making up an answer and requiring someone prove you wrong is the argument from ignorance fallacy. You still need positive evidence for your claim.
If there is no god, why do so many atheists care so much about the non-existence of a supposedly fictional deity?
Most atheists don't claim there is no god, they claim there isn't good enough reason to think that there is a god.
Please watch this for a full answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wguAQHWVcZY
No offense taken
I agree. We really don't know why it is that the stuff of nature has to follow the laws of nature. But it seems to me that nature is more than law-like; it is also purposeful. In some way, it seems imaginable that a universe could conceivably exist without any discernible order or purpose. Of course in such a universe, there would be no creatures around to notice the lack of order and purpose.
I liked the video. And I agree with you that we all ought to care about oppressive people, oppressive governments, etc. Religions are quite often just another powerful means by which to control people. I've experienced it myself countless times. The protection of individual rights is a never-ending battle and the stakes are high. Where do our individual rights come from?
