Nature's Laws

[SteelCurtain]

How do we know when we've gotten something wrong?  The point I'm attempting to make is that by what measure (standard) do we determine that a society got something wrong? 

Generally, we don't, until the people we fucked over start to make enough noise, and people who care start to listen.

How do we decide that the Nazis were wrong to haul the Jews away and kill millions of them?  Without God, it seems to me that we are left to decide what is just or unjust by majority opinion. 

Do you think everyone was okay with it in the 30's-40's? Do you honestly think that without that book, people would grow up with no idea that rounding up millions of people and slaughtering them is a bad thing? Also, to see how quickly most people can be influenced to do terrible things, read about the Milgram experiments. How objective is morality, really?

I think that is unacceptable given the history of even the past century.  It is as though human beings are incapable of truly living up to their potential.  Do you think that the past 100 years of human history shows that humans have learned anything useful about morality and how to promote justice for all? 

I do. In the last 100 years, women have been given the right to vote, Jim Crow laws were booted, desegregation happened, gays went from being considered a diseased mind to a natural form of sexual expression, we will see marriage equality this year, transgendered people are given a voice, you can say you're an atheist out loud and generally not fear for your safety, and we are working towards erasing gender gaps. The US is objectively a better place. All this progress despite dragging along the kicking and screaming moral toddler that is Christianity.