(May 19, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Freedom4me Wrote: I haven't established any moral absolutes.
Then don't you think using them as justification for your beliefs is a tad premature?

Quote: But I think that some (a few) moral absolutes exist.
Best get around to demonstrating them first, because "I believe the supernatural exists because I believe moral absolutes exist" is circular reasoning.
Quote: One of these is, "You shall have no other gods before Me." In this commandment, God is saying that He alone is their God even if they turn away from Him and start worshiping one or more false gods. By this one commandment, all of us are condemned as lawbreakers since all of us at times have desired some one or something more than God. For some, the love of money becomes a violation of this command, for others, pride in one's own worthiness, for others, political power. There are so many things that we humans can place above God in our lives. I'm a sinner condemned by this law myself.
If you're just going to presuppose a god exists, in order to justify your belief in moral absolutes, in order to justify your belief in the supernatural, in order to justify your belief in god, then we're done here, because that is a perfect circle and you'd do better to just stop wasting our time and use the simplified version: "I believe god exists because I believe god exists."
You need to stop asserting and start demonstrating, because a chain of things you believe is not going to convince anybody. You can't say you believe X thing because you also believe Y thing, when neither of those things has any evidence behind them; you can't cover for one claim with another claim.
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