RE: Nature's Laws
May 19, 2015 at 5:28 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2015 at 5:47 pm by Freedom4me.)
(May 19, 2015 at 4:57 pm)robvalue Wrote: Have you read the bible freedom? I mean, properly from start to finish? Because the character you describe appears to bear no resemblance to the biblical God.
Yes I've read all of it. And I don't claim to be someone who has the ability to infallibly interpret it. I have a Catholic friend who is absolutely convinced that the pope truly does have some sort of infallible bible teaching authority. He loves his religion but I'm not sure that he loves his God. In this regard he is like a political party loyalist. There are Republicans out there who's loyalty to the Republican party vastly exceeds their loyalty to their country, the constitution, etc. In the Democrat party such loyalists exist also. I have never understood any of that.
(May 19, 2015 at 4:47 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(May 19, 2015 at 4:39 pm)Freedom4me Wrote: The objections tend to take one of several forms:
1. I hate your god and his morality.
2. You have no evidence for your god's existence.
3. We can explain all of "reality" quite sufficiently without any gods.
There isn't much I can do to address number 1, so I'll try to stay focused on 2 and 3.
1. What a terrible strawman of the objection.
2. Accurate.
3. Another terrible strawman...nobody here claims we can explain everything in reality. The point is that we have no reason to use anything supernatural in any explanation. Especially if the supernatural idea to which is being appealed hasn't been confirmed to exist.
Does Darwinism help the 'atheist side' demonstrate that no gods are necessary to account for complex things such as animals? It seems to me that the supernatural is generally invoked when the science is still rather lacking. It's like the god-of-the-gaps thing, except that IMO the gaps dominate. There is VASTLY more that we don't know than what we do know.