(May 19, 2015 at 4:15 pm)Freedom4me Wrote: Do you believe that there is injustice anywhere? If so, then it follows that justice exists somewhere. Is there darkness somewhere? Then light exists. Are lies ever told? Then truth must exist too. In Romans Chapter one, the apostle Paul says:
None of those things require a god, let alone the specific christian one you're appealing to. Truth is merely a concept for that which corresponds most closely to objective reality, and lies are the antonym of that. Justice is similarly conceptual, denoting our sense of fairness, and injustice is merely another antonym. They don't exist objectively, they are highly context-driven conceptual elements of reality. If you're going to argue that these things come from god, you cannot do that by asserting that they're absolute, asserting that absolutes can only come about supernaturally, and asserting that god is the arbiter of them. The fact that you believe those things is not evidence that they're true, and you have not given anyone else reason to believe as you do, just because you say they are so.
The same is true of bible verses, by the way; that's why I'll just be ignoring the one you posted. It's not true just because the bible says so, either.
Quote:Because of our fallen, sinful, dead nature (post fall) the human capacity for self-deception is limitless. But by God's grace, the Holy Spirit gave life to my dead soul and made me receptive to His word. I was beyond prideful. I loved arguing with Christians, insulting their faith, and demonstrating the infinite superiority of reason over faith. But God brought me to a point at which it required more faith to remain atheist than to admit what had always been obvious enough through the kind of world that God has made.
Please don't poison the well.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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