Nature's Laws

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Hello everyone!  I'm a new member to AF.

Welcome.

 

At the age of 27, one of my friends loaned me a book called "Evidence That Demands A Verdict" by Josh McDowell.  That book changed my views completely.

I've read McDowell's book.  What, specifically, did you find so compelling?

 

 Since then I've seen lots of additional reasons to believe in the God of the bible.

Could you list a few?

The universe is orderly and purposeful in certain ways.

  

I'll grant 'orderly'.  To claim that the universe is 'purposeful' is simply chauvinistic.  In order to support that claim, you would have to know what the purpose of the universe actually is.

How could impersonal stuff like matter and energy "obey" laws of any kind?  Where do the laws of nature and the laws of logic come from?

You seem unclear about what a scientific 'law' actually is.  I'll try to help.  Law are statements, usually (but not always) mathematical in nature that describe the way a certain portion of the universe works.  It isn't as if human beings create physical laws and then the universe is constrained to follow them.  By way of example, Robert Boyle didn't dictate the behaviour of gases; he observed that pressure decreases as volume increases.  However, the universe was going to behave the same way, regardless of what Boyle had to say about it.

Laws of nature and laws of logic come from extremely bright men and women who do long, painstaking, often under-appreciated work to figure things out.

 

If there is no god, why do so many atheists care so much about the non-existence of a supposedly fictional deity?

I don't presume to speak for other atheists, but I care about godism because it causes me a degree of emotional and psychic pain to see the horrors that godists get up to, and to listen to them prattling along, blissful in their stunning ignorance about the world.  To believe in gods is to switch off your brain.  Anything you either can't or won't trouble to learn about is simply swept into the god-box, along with all the nonsense that intellectually lazy people get up to.

When you and your co-religionists decide that it is cruel to deny condoms and polio vaccine to the people who need them then most, when you realize that prayer does fuck-all for a village buried under an avalanche, when you wake up to the brain-shattering irony of millionaire priests and pastors, and when you finally get your head round the fact that the world is what it is, not what your fluffy-bunny Bible dreams tell you it is, then I may care a little less about godism.  I don't fancy the chances.


  

Please don't take any offense to my words.  I'm not trying to offend anyone here.  I'm just asking a few questions that seem to be fair.

Of COURSE you're trying to offend people.  Why else would you visit an atheist message board?

Boru