RE: Nature's Laws
May 19, 2015 at 8:29 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2015 at 8:30 pm by Freedom4me.)
(May 19, 2015 at 5:46 pm)Esquilax Wrote: None of those things require a god, let alone the specific christian one you're appealing to. Truth is merely a concept for that which corresponds most closely to objective reality, and lies are the antonym of that. Justice is similarly conceptual, denoting our sense of fairness, and injustice is merely another antonym. They don't exist objectively, they are highly context-driven conceptual elements of reality. If you're going to argue that these things come from god, you cannot do that by asserting that they're absolute, asserting that absolutes can only come about supernaturally, and asserting that god is the arbiter of them. The fact that you believe those things is not evidence that they're true, and you have not given anyone else reason to believe as you do, just because you say they are so.
The same is true of bible verses, by the way; that's why I'll just be ignoring the one you posted. It's not true just because the bible says so, either.
Please don't poison the well.
I think my point is valid. It's true that what is "the most just" is often impossible for us to ascertain with perfect precision, but we strive for justice because we are certain that it truly and objectively exists, and that we ought to seek after it. That, IMO, is the reason why race-based slavery is no longer tolerated in most of the world. Things that are purely subjective, such as "cashews taste better than peanuts" would be silly to argue about. But human beings will always argue about what is more/less just.