RE: [split] Big Announcement and Invitation
May 20, 2015 at 3:17 am
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2015 at 3:21 am by robvalue.)
No, I don't know numbers. But have these people been turned over the police, along with the evidence, to see them jailed? Just kicking them out of the church is not enough.
As for free will, we could be made so that we only think about and do things that are positive, and cannot conceive of or do anything harmful. I imagine such a world very easily when I close my eyes. Now, if God is in fact hampered by arbitrary rules, then the question becomes is it responsible for him to be doing anything since he is accountable to no one? He has also made my imagination more powerful than him. Don't you find that odd?
As Esq said, free will does not mean we can do anything. It means we can try. I hold God responsible for the existence of pain, suffering, death, negative emotions etc. If these are all things he cannot work around, then I think it's mighty presumptious of him to just proceed regardless.
Atheism? Atheism makes no claims that it will prevent anything. Theists make the claims that God is in control of everything, so they are the ones saying there is someone who could actually stop things from happening such as child rape, but doesn't. I'm pointing out the flaws in such a belief.
Give me the keys to the universe and I'll stop it immediately. If God can't stop it, he's not very powerful at all.
As for free will, we could be made so that we only think about and do things that are positive, and cannot conceive of or do anything harmful. I imagine such a world very easily when I close my eyes. Now, if God is in fact hampered by arbitrary rules, then the question becomes is it responsible for him to be doing anything since he is accountable to no one? He has also made my imagination more powerful than him. Don't you find that odd?
As Esq said, free will does not mean we can do anything. It means we can try. I hold God responsible for the existence of pain, suffering, death, negative emotions etc. If these are all things he cannot work around, then I think it's mighty presumptious of him to just proceed regardless.
Atheism? Atheism makes no claims that it will prevent anything. Theists make the claims that God is in control of everything, so they are the ones saying there is someone who could actually stop things from happening such as child rape, but doesn't. I'm pointing out the flaws in such a belief.
Give me the keys to the universe and I'll stop it immediately. If God can't stop it, he's not very powerful at all.
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