RE: Nature's Laws
May 21, 2015 at 12:31 pm
(This post was last modified: May 21, 2015 at 12:48 pm by Freedom4me.)
(May 21, 2015 at 10:59 am)Esquilax Wrote: So, do you know, like, literally anything about the second law of thermodynamics? Or did you just hear some creationist wiffle on about it, and decided it must be a slam dunk argument against evolution because it sounds so important? Because your misrepresentation of what the second law actually is, is so profound and complete that I have trouble believing that you even know what it is, and the idea that you just heard that it disproves evolution from some yokel and decided to repeat it is better, simply because it means you're ignorant, rather than straight up lying.
The second law refers to closed systems, which the universe is, but the Earth is not.
Yes, there are actual comic strips that debunk what you just said. The overall entropy of a closed system always increases, but the Earth is not a closed system, since it has energy entering it from outside, most prominently from the sun, but from other sources too. Therefore, the arrival of life on Earth in no way contradicts the second law, because that refers to closed systems, which the Earth is not. I'd suggest reading a physics textbook before you decide you know everything you need to about the laws of physics, in future.
I'll tell you a true story that might explain my (fairly ignorant) views on abiogenesis and the second law. When I was about 9 or 10 years old, I asked my dad to buy me a baseball glove. Eventually he did, and before he did he told me that he would buy me a baseball glove only if I promise to bring it in the house and put it away after each use. It was not acceptable to leave it outside on the ground. My dad didn't need to explain the second law to me. I already understood that whether our planet is an open system or a closed system, my 20 dollar glove wasn't going to gradually (or suddenly) become a 20 million dollar glove simply by allowing the forces of nature to begin working their magic on my baseball glove. Instead, my 20 dollar glove was going to become a 20 cent glove by allowing the effects of time and the somewhat unpredictable forces of nature to act upon it.