(May 21, 2015 at 12:54 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(May 21, 2015 at 12:31 pm)Freedom4me Wrote: I'll tell you a true story that might explain my (fairly ignorant) views on abiogenesis and the second law. When I was about 9 or 10 years old, I asked my dad to buy me a baseball glove. Eventually he did, and before he did he told me that he would buy me a baseball glove only if I promise to bring it in the house and put it away after each use. It was not acceptable to leave it outside on the ground. My dad didn't need to explain the second law to me. I already understood that whether our planet is an open system or a closed system, my 20 dollar glove wasn't going to gradually (or suddenly) become a 20 million dollar glove simply by allowing the forces of nature to begin working their magic on my baseball glove. Instead, my 20 dollar glove was going to become a 20 cent glove by allowing the effects of time and the somewhat unpredictable forces of nature to act upon it.
Seriously? That's your response? You're not even going to acknowledge that you were wrong?
You claimed that the second law of thermodynamics proves that abiogenesis cannot happen, and I showed that the second law doesn't even apply to the planet. In response, without even correcting the error, you tell this ridiculous story that is not relevant in any way to the second law, because the second law doesn't say anything about the "forces of nature" and somehow you think this completely irrelevant gibberish is a cogent rebuttal?
Did I say that our planet is a closed system? Can you tell me where I went wrong?
