(May 21, 2015 at 1:21 pm)Freedom4me Wrote:(May 21, 2015 at 12:54 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Seriously? That's your response? You're not even going to acknowledge that you were wrong?
You claimed that the second law of thermodynamics proves that abiogenesis cannot happen, and I showed that the second law doesn't even apply to the planet. In response, without even correcting the error, you tell this ridiculous story that is not relevant in any way to the second law, because the second law doesn't say anything about the "forces of nature" and somehow you think this completely irrelevant gibberish is a cogent rebuttal?
Did I say that our planet is a closed system? Can you tell me where I went wrong?
You asserted that the second law of thermodynamics renders abiogenesis impossible. The second law of thermodynamics applies exclusively to closed systems. Planet Earth is not a closed system, and therefore the second law of thermodynamics does not apply to things that happen on it. Abiogenesis, as we are discussing it, happened on Earth, and is therefore exempt from the strictures of the second law. Therefore, the second law of thermodynamics does not render abiogenesis impossible, and your initial claim is falsified.
This is, of course, a highly simplified account; I could go into a number of other areas in which you're wrong too, such as what entropy is, how local decreases in entropy would not noticeably impact the overall level of entropy within the system, or how the diversification of life may actually constitute an increase in entropy when contrasted with a lack of life. But it's best to stick with the basics, especially when they're sufficient.
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