(May 21, 2015 at 3:40 pm)Freedom4me Wrote: So you're saying that over sufficiently long periods of time (a few million years perhaps), my dad would have been wrong to think that entropy would increase and eventually render the baseball glove LESS "orderly" and possibly even useless?
I am saying that the second law is not relevant in discussions of abiogenesis, and it certainly isn't the only consideration to be made here; for one, you don't exactly seem to know what entropy even is. Entropy is what the second law discusses, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the fate of your baseball glove; entropy simply discusses energy, and how it disperses throughout a closed system over time. The example you're giving isn't even applicable to what you were originally talking about; do you seriously know that little about the subject you brought up, that you'll drift off somewhere else entirely without knowing it?
Secondly, you cannot even draw a proper comparison between the pre-biotic Earth and your baseball glove, because they are completely different things; you could probably disprove the idea that ice melts if the only examples you're willing to consider are of liquid water, or fire, but the fact is that examples generally have to be applicable to the discussion, which yours are not. The state the Earth is in now is radically different from how it was at the time of the original abiogenetic event, whatever that may be, and so of course the effect it has on matter will be radically different too. What you're doing is akin to stating that ice can't melt, because you don't see the ocean melting. There's a few factors different between what you're talking about, and the example you're giving against it.
And frankly, I think you probably knew that, and are being facetious. It's not a great look for you. You may want to try conversing honestly.
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