(May 22, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Freedom4me Wrote: True, and I've read about the Miller-Urey experiment, and other similar experiments. But the all-important question is, does "nature" display a plan, a purpose, and the know-how by which to build machines? For example, every living cell requires some energy in order to carry out the various tasks that are necessary for the cell to feed itself, get rid of waste, etc. But that energy has to be made available in just the right form, at the right time, and it needs to be routed to just the right place within the cell. Every living cell is like car. All of the parts form various machines, and these machines do specific things for a specific purpose. Without teleonomy (plan with a purpose) you don't get machines in nature or anywhere else.
No, you're wrong: you totally can get machines in nature without a purpose.
What? You're not convinced by that? But I'm done. I provided exactly as much evidence for my position as you did. Why aren't you convinced?
So... wait: just asserting something without any real evidence isn't a sufficient rebuttal? Huh...
Do you know what an argument from incredulity is? It's when you mistake your own inability to properly understand something, as an argument against it. All you've done here is state that you're incredulous over how complicated you feel the living cell is, and then concluded that because you can't imagine it evolving, it therefore didn't. But as I've said multiple times now, your opinions aren't worth much here; you're not a scientist, you certainly aren't giving us any evidence, just your own opinions, which are clearly biased, since you're a theist. Without the evidence to support what you're saying, why should I care?
Conversely, I've not only explained my position in detail, I've also pointed you to laboratory experiments that support that position, and what's really baffling is that you're still going on about how the cell needs planning to function, when the first sentence of your post acknowledges that you've seen the experimental results of biological matter beginning to form without a plan. You say you're familiar, but then go on to ignore the findings you say you know just a few sentences later. What's going on there?
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