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Do atheists fake egalitarianism?
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RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism?
(May 26, 2015 at 4:00 pm)Heywood Wrote: The Declaration of Independence suggests that egalitarianism is more than a political movement.....that it is a brute fact of nature established by God and not some choice made by society. 

Yes, but the idea was NOT that people are all of equal ability.  The idea is that people all have an inherent right to be treated equally according to what they do, not who they were born to.  And although they declared the right given by a creator, they knew damn well that the right was a societal choice.  They were rejecting English rule as a societal choice.

(May 26, 2015 at 3:36 pm)Heywood Wrote: Egalitarianism is a recent modern phenomena.  It is not something we evolved.  It is an assumption that certain human societies accept and other human societies reject.  If it is but a choice and not a universal truth, then there is nothing wrong with a society deciding gays are lessor human beings or women shouldn't vote.

It is a choice.  A moral choice in favor of fairness. And there is something very wrong with deciding gays and women are lessor human beings.  It's unfair.

We do slowly build better cultures.  Cultures evolve too.  But it's human beings who make those steps forward.  Belief in god tends to retard not foster fairness.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Heywood - May 26, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Longhorn - May 26, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Pyrrho - May 26, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Pyrrho - May 26, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Chad32 - May 26, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Heywood - May 26, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Pyrrho - May 26, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Alex K - May 26, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Heywood - May 26, 2015 at 1:13 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Alex K - May 26, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Pyrrho - May 26, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Cephus - May 26, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by JesusHChrist - May 26, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Chad32 - May 26, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Pyrrho - May 26, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Alex K - May 26, 2015 at 1:05 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Minimalist - May 26, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Alex K - May 26, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by JesusHChrist - May 26, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Heywood - May 26, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Heywood - May 26, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Jenny A - May 26, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by JesusHChrist - May 26, 2015 at 1:17 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Angrboda - May 26, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by paulpablo - May 26, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 26, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Esquilax - May 26, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by JesusHChrist - May 26, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 26, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Esquilax - May 26, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 26, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Chad32 - May 26, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Heywood - May 26, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Alex K - May 26, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Esquilax - May 26, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Angrboda - May 26, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Heywood - May 26, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Cato - May 26, 2015 at 3:06 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Heywood - May 26, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Chad32 - May 26, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Esquilax - May 26, 2015 at 3:07 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Angrboda - May 26, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Heywood - May 26, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Esquilax - May 26, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Cato - May 26, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Angrboda - May 26, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Pyrrho - May 26, 2015 at 3:06 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by FreeTony - May 26, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Jenny A - May 26, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Heywood - May 26, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Jenny A - May 26, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 26, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Heywood - May 26, 2015 at 4:12 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Pyrrho - May 26, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Alex K - May 26, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Esquilax - May 26, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Jackalope - May 26, 2015 at 7:41 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Dystopia - May 26, 2015 at 7:32 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 27, 2015 at 1:51 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Secular Elf - May 26, 2015 at 8:29 pm
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RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Alex K - May 27, 2015 at 1:47 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Dystopia - May 27, 2015 at 8:27 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 27, 2015 at 9:21 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Ben Davis - May 27, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by LastPoet - May 27, 2015 at 9:04 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Ben Davis - May 27, 2015 at 9:19 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Ben Davis - May 28, 2015 at 7:29 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by comet - May 27, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 27, 2015 at 12:41 pm
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RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by rexbeccarox - May 27, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 28, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Pyrrho - May 28, 2015 at 11:50 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by ignoramus - May 28, 2015 at 5:07 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Alex K - May 28, 2015 at 5:27 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 28, 2015 at 5:38 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Whateverist - May 28, 2015 at 7:57 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Exian - May 28, 2015 at 7:47 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Ben Davis - May 28, 2015 at 9:17 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Mudhammam - May 28, 2015 at 8:51 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 28, 2015 at 10:01 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by comet - May 28, 2015 at 10:14 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Ben Davis - May 28, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 28, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by robvalue - May 28, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Do atheists fake egalitarianism? - by Jackalope - May 28, 2015 at 7:57 pm
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