(May 26, 2015 at 12:49 pm)Heywood Wrote: For an theist egalitarianism is an easy concept to accept. People should be treated the same because God created them as equals. However if there is no God then there really isn't any rational reason to actually believe that all the different races, genders, or sexual orientations are actually equivalent. There might be rational reasons to pretend the are equivalent....social harmony and such...but is there rational reason to believe they are actually equivalent? It is simply too much of a stretch to think that nature, as a matter of happenstance, made all these things equivalent.
You know damned well that there are theists who are liberal and theists who are conservative. What the fuck makes you think atheists are monochromatic either?
I have run into Ayn Rand atheists whom I do not support. I have also run into Che supporters whom I don't support.
The "equal" I value isn't no inequity, entropy alone negates the idea of a perpetual motion machine. The equality I value IS based on regardless of class or gender or religion or race, is the fact that our ride is the same and ends the same.
Once you know the planet is finite and the sun is finite the only sane thing I can conclude is that we are equal. Our differences are petty when you know the age and the scope of the universe.