RE: Hello, Anyone interested in a debate?
May 31, 2015 at 4:54 am
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2015 at 5:17 am by robvalue.)
Here are some of my thoughts, for anyone who is interested 
Disbelief is not a choice. If my brain does not believe a statement, that is a matter of fact. Maybe I am able to give rational reasons which my brain disbelieves it, maybe I can't. Maybe I don't even know why. Brains are complex things. But remember disbelief does not automatically equal belief in the contrary.
Even if I couldn't defend my disbelief, that would not automatically change my mind and make me start believing. It may make me evaluate things again, but if nothing else has changed, it's not likely my brain will just suddenly start believing something it didn't before.
As it happens, it's rather easy to defend. But any given atheist may disbelieve for any reason and they have no responsibility to explain why, or to even know why. Neither do theists. I do heartily encourage critical thinking and analysis of all your beliefs, though. I would hope people care that their reasons are sound and they are in touch with these reasons, but really that is up to them to decide.
And as people so often forget, saying "I haven't come to a belief about whether there is a god or not" makes you an atheist, and surely you wouldn't ask for reasons why someone is as yet undecided. Not every atheist makes their own claims of belief that the presented claim is in fact false. This is the default, sensible position to approach any claim with. And your position may remain that way indefinitely.
It is rather obvious that the existence of any sort of god, whatever the fuck it's meant to mean, is not obvious.

Disbelief is not a choice. If my brain does not believe a statement, that is a matter of fact. Maybe I am able to give rational reasons which my brain disbelieves it, maybe I can't. Maybe I don't even know why. Brains are complex things. But remember disbelief does not automatically equal belief in the contrary.
Even if I couldn't defend my disbelief, that would not automatically change my mind and make me start believing. It may make me evaluate things again, but if nothing else has changed, it's not likely my brain will just suddenly start believing something it didn't before.
As it happens, it's rather easy to defend. But any given atheist may disbelieve for any reason and they have no responsibility to explain why, or to even know why. Neither do theists. I do heartily encourage critical thinking and analysis of all your beliefs, though. I would hope people care that their reasons are sound and they are in touch with these reasons, but really that is up to them to decide.
And as people so often forget, saying "I haven't come to a belief about whether there is a god or not" makes you an atheist, and surely you wouldn't ask for reasons why someone is as yet undecided. Not every atheist makes their own claims of belief that the presented claim is in fact false. This is the default, sensible position to approach any claim with. And your position may remain that way indefinitely.
It is rather obvious that the existence of any sort of god, whatever the fuck it's meant to mean, is not obvious.
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