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Poll: What is "will" to you?
This poll is closed.
Radically free in the full blooded libertarian sense.
0%
0 0%
Free but inescapably (and thankfully) constrained.
17.65%
3 17.65%
Compulsory. Nothing gets willed unless I get off my lazy ass.
5.88%
1 5.88%
Free when not impeded by the will of another or circumstances beyond my feeble powers.
11.76%
2 11.76%
"Will" is an illusion of the mind, a concept believed by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
23.53%
4 23.53%
Will is epiphenomenal, a byproduct of useful processes of the brain.
23.53%
4 23.53%
Other please explain unless the repeated call to so causes nausea. Check with your doctor to see if your constitution is strong enough for this debate.
17.65%
3 17.65%
Total 17 vote(s) 100%
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Do Humans Have Compulsary Will? Which best describes your take on 'will'?
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RE: Do Humans Have Compulsary Will? Which best describes your take on 'will'?
I'm not sure if you can claim to be discussing the evolution of the mind if you ask us to assume, as a given...at the outset..that your mind provides you with no additional utility. That, plainly, is to ask us to assume that the most well attested and sensible explanation for the persistence of a trait or structure, evolutionarily speaking...is not acceptable as an explanation from the word go. Additionally, you've saddled poor old evolution with some heinous shit in this thread, like simultaneous emergence/development......

How, do you imagine, can a person provide an answer that is both acceptable to you and within the framework of evolutionary biology, if we must accept that assertion and that baggage? All that remains as an option is to explain that brain confers advantage, utility, and so mind persists as a by-product of brain - but you won't accept that as an answer either...due to other assertions which you will impose upon the discussion.

Heads you win, tails we lose. You are actively creating a situation in which your question cannot be answered..but not because it is unanswerable, or because those answers available lack explanatory power.
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RE: Do Humans Have Compulsary Will? Which best describes your take on 'will'? - by The Grand Nudger - May 31, 2015 at 7:44 am

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