Because the bible tells you so?

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Relative, barbarians.  It is implicit in the claim that the system in the bible was the best possible system for the world at that time.  There were other people in the world, following apparently lesser systems......barbarian is probably an aggressive word to use...but it's accurate.  Do you disagree with my word choice, in using "barbarian" or are we discussing whether or not that statement you made was true?  I don't have any notion of what you believe other than what you write on the page, numbskull.  I know better - christianity is harder to nail to the wall than jello.  For all I know you were part of one of the JW splinter sects and not "JW Proper".

You tell me that you believe that the system in the bible was the best possible for the world at that time..and I take you for your word, I accept that you believe that.  I'm not required to accept that your belief is factual.  No amount of calling me ignorant will speak to the point I raised with you.  No amount of claiming my responses are unreasonable will actually make them so - or even speak to that response itself...and no amount of dissatisfaction with my word choice will demonstrate that the point those words were used in service of is in error....

You don't know what my preconceived notions are, and you -couldn't possibly know- what they were....... even if I had them.  No more, in fact, than I could know yours.  So just stop.

I have bolded and italicized what I quoted from you, the statement to which I responded.  Do you or do you not believe that the system in the bible was the best possible system for the world at that time?  If theres some misunderstanding -there- then you can disregard my comments.  If not, you're stuck with them.

(you seem to think, btw, that my complete lack of patience is some effect that you have on me, or that's brought about by some idea of you that I have.....that's not the case at all.   In the years I've been here, I've heard those same claims over and over.  It aint you, if that helps.   I'm actually quite fond of you....)

Well this is the problem I see then, take what I say at face value. Don't paint a broad brush from every other theist you've talked. I would probably have the same qualms with most of them. I never used the word barbarian and that isn't how I feel. I believe that the Moasic law was a system that protected gods ultimate plan. Paul illustrated the law covenant as a tudor, or protector, to christ. It was not a perfect system. But for the ISRAELITES, it was the best possible system to protect them as a people that served to gods purpose. The Israelites were supposed to be kind to alien residents. Again, I am on the fence with what I ultimately believe but I am just responding the OP about what helped me have faith in the bible

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They didn't see the need to change them, Nica (or at least saw no need to change them any further than they -have- changed them).  When they look at those scriptures they -do- see the trinity and hellfire.  Eh?  Ask a catholic, they'll give you chapter and verse.  I could play the part of the catholic if you'd like.

I have gone toe to toe with catholics, mormons, and protestants about their beliefs. Even if they have scriptures to back them up, I know that the composite picture doesn't work for them. Scripture mining is not more noble than quote mining

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the contention of just about every sect of christianity that we all fall short of those teachings?  If that's the case, how would falling short make one christian less christian than another?  That's ignoring that different sects think the phrase "the teachings of jesus" mean different things, of course.

Of course, so then I would say that the sect that has the least deviations from christs teachings wins

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   I'm actually quite fond of you....)

Thanks for adding this, I need to remember that I am not talking to the happy hands alliance. I'll try to not take offense to every word uttered

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